brewdad
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I suppose some sort of tire upgrade would be made to increase the current 97 mph speed limited on all current Rubicon trims since the v6 equipped sport and sahara are speed limited at 110 mph.
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Exactly. People who buy these vehicles to make themselves look good or better don’t but instead invite themselves to disaster and free floating anxiety of gross proportions.expect Jeep to water down the Wrangler to compete for who looks the most bad ass in a parking lot?
EXACTLYExactly. People who buy these vehicles to make themselves look good or better don’t but instead invite themselves to disaster and free floating anxiety of gross proportions.
Who knows really, I just quoted that cause others think that...kinda irrelevant cause it's just a concept...
I think others have got to that because of the diesel pricing. But with that hemi you're not only getting more torque you're getting what? 80% more horsepower? MAJOR suspension upgrades required, but others who have converted would know more. And those "others" may be a lot more "responsible" than most..just saying. You don't invest $30K into a Hemi conversion and drive your Wrangler like a maniac.
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So, you expect Jeep to water down the Wrangler to compete for who looks the most bad ass in a parking lot?
haha. Yee-hawGiddy up! Oops, wrong thread! Horse mistake. Puns intended.
As for this...not sure where you get the idea that Bronco prioritizes "pavement" over off road. No promotional video or information I've read show it driving through New York city or down the interstate. 100% of the videos are it devouring boulders and smashing through sand dunes. Anyway...not a bronco vs thread lolPeople need to start looking at these 2 vehicles for what they really are, and truly ask themselves what does or doesn't fit with what that specific vehicle was designed for. The Wrangler prioritizes extreme off road capability, with pavement as a secondary concern. The Bronco prioritizes pavement, with off road as its secondary concern.
IFS is the limitation we're all speaking of. And I guess those 5% of the time the Jeep can get over that massive boulder the Bronco will just have to find a new route. But as you say, but what your use-case dictates.Competition is great. The Bronco won't dethrone the Wrangler as king of the trails, but it will certainly gobble up those who don't plan on straying off the mild trails and also the image conscious crowd.
Can you imagine a 392 with this garbage steering? It is going to be death trap lol.I still don’t think it’s going to happen, but quite honestly even if it does, I’m out and into a Bronco.
Some of us want so much more out of Wrangler than FCA taking the cheap way out and slapping the biggest engine they have laying around in it. This doesn’t accomplish the goal of delivering buyers a better Wrangler. There are so many more things that need attention.
Here’s what I want to see FCA do to make Wrangler a better product:
This is by no means exhaustive, but it’s real change and real upgrades that appeal to a wider range of buyers than a V8. The 392 isn’t quite slapping lipstick on a pig, but it’s close. I’ll wait until mid-cycle refresh before any decisions are made, but unless Jeep actually makes meaningful improvements, I’ll be looking at a Bronco Wildtrak.
- Better top options
- Better doorless driving options
- Better powertrain options (NOT the Hemi)
- Better technology (Uconnect5)
- Better steering and handling
- Fix the annoying details they got wrong like rain gutters that dump water inside the cabin when doors open
- More suspension and tire options
- Better color options
- More real accessories rather than the vaporware Mopar promised at launch.
- A better service experience
- Fix the quality and build inconsistencies
Oh my...and only 45K lol, crazinessWhile 6.4 liters seems like overkill for such a small vehicle, a 5.0 in the larger Bronco seems more appropriate.
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/07/p...v8-with-up-to-758-hp-in-the-2021-ford-bronco/
damn thing will just flip over on its side.Give us those half doors at least.
No way they can achieve the claimed sub-5 second 0-60 time with 37s... maybe 60 km/h
Well FCA does it the other way... they release what should only be a concept (Hellcats, TrackHawks, etc.)