sadmaker
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- 2022 JL Snazzberry
The new bronco's are f***ing ugly. That's the deal
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Well if paint problems sour you.... be forewarned that the new GM "environmentally freindly" paint becomes permanently etched, scarred and otherwise made unsightly due to bird ahit, sap, bugs and tree dirt... and then GM treats you like a POS when you expect it fixed during warranty.Do their door hinges bubble and melt? Will they honor their corrosion warranty? I'm on my first ever Jeep JL now. I absolutely love driving it especially now that summer is here. Never in my life did I want a convertible. This changed my mind. I bring up the paint issue compared to Ford because I just had my doors/hinges repainted. The engineering design is crap. If it weren't, we wouldn't all be having this problem. I've never owned an FCA before this. Been a GM dedicated guy for 27 years with only 2 exceptions. I buy cars every couple years, usually new. My wife gets the same treatment. The paint issues is enough for me to go somewhere else.
Having never sat in a new Bronco you’re assessment of #1 with experience completely accepted, #2 accepted since my seat is rock hard uncomfortable, my first and biggest complaint, #3, don’t care, satisfied.There’s three things the bronco is better in.
1. Handling
2. Seat comfort
3. Technology
If Jeep would stop being cheap and lazy and provide the proper LCAs to rubicons from the factory #1 on my list could be crossed off.
I was able to see a used one at a chevy dealer just for shits and giggles and yeah it does feel very cheap (especailly the dash) the marine grade vinyl looked good from the touch but not sure about the long term...ill stick with my RubiconI had planned on ordering a Bronco, but am so glad I went with the Jeep. The Bronco is already looking dated to my eyes, and it still isn't widely available. So far so good on the wrangler....and I got mine as ordered in 5 months.
In the couple dozen GM's I've owned over the years, I have yet to have an issue with paint but thanks for the heads up. My 2022 GM just got PPF and ceramic coated. Chances are good it will never even see a rain drop so the paint should stay in decent shape. Do you have a link related to your concern?Well if paint problems sour you.... be forewarned that the new GM "environmentally freindly" paint becomes permanently etched, scarred and otherwise made unsightly due to bird ahit, sap, bugs and tree dirt... and then GM treats you like a POS when you expect it fixed during warranty.
Where did you post the secret decoder ring for your post?You never know, contrary to popular belief the most unreliable vehicle I have owned was a Honda, stranded in remote area without cell service (blown cam seal)was the last straw-sold. Mark IV Lincoln began self destruction at 100K( traded to X for child support- (best trade I ever made) the most reliable, 05 4R, 210k mi before needed repairs exceeded worth. Jeeps, 3A blew head gaskets, L-head replaced with F-head, no problems for 50 years since. CJ5- 10 years (DD for many) no problems until 375 HP Chevy ( mods for it) replaced with 700HP blown Chevy that it couldn’t handle. No problems with 15 GC yet. 392- to be determined.
That right there, is why I was initially interested in the Bronco two door, I happen to like old International Scouts! The Bronco does remind me of one to a degree.It looks hauntingly similar to my 1969 International Scout.
Nah, the 2dr Wrangler looks just right (IMHO) and although I really think the 2dr Bronco looks 10x better than the 4dr it's still too simple in overall design. I love pre-78 Broncos, and would still love to own a 76 or 77, I think it's the best looking 4x4 ever made, followed closely by the 70s CJ5s. I also think Jeep 99% nailed it w/ the 2dr JL, not really anything I'd want changed from a styling POV and for a modern vehicle w/ rugged off road ability you can't do much better design wise (IMO).Completely agree, the 2dr Bronco IMHO looks better than the 2dr Wrangler
Cool! Now all you need is a two door, preferably in a Jeep bodyI'll echo what other owners/drivers of the new Bronco have already said - they flat out drive better than the Jeep, period. It's undeniable based simply on suspension design, and that's not a bad thing or a bash in any way, it's just simple math. In my opinion, they are different tools for different jobs, and I'm very happy to have both options at my disposal.
Looks like you've found your newest home furniture piece, ie kitchen table.I'll echo what other owners/drivers of the new Bronco have already said - they flat out drive better than the Jeep, period. It's undeniable based simply on suspension design, and that's not a bad thing or a bash in any way, it's just simple math. In my opinion, they are different tools for different jobs, and I'm very happy to have both options at my disposal.