Well for me I had a JK Sport. Modded it because I needed to. Fast forward 10 years and ordered a JL Rubicon. Everything I wanted and needed out of the box except for the winch. Less time wrenching and more time wheeling.
Agreed. My stock Sahara came with as much ground clearance as my JK Rubicon Recon.The JL is sooooooo much better than the JK at just about everything I’ve found little that has to be modified for what I need today. Granted I’m not out crawling rocks every weekend but the newer platform is much easier to live with as delivered vs my JK that I don’t want to mess anything up modding.
Agreed, the Rubicon comes decked out right out of the box and all under warranty.Well for me I had a JK Sport. Modded it because I needed to. Fast forward 10 years and ordered a JL Rubicon. Everything I wanted and needed out of the box except for the winch. Less time wrenching and more time wheeling.
From what I understand it's covered by the warranty. It's a collaboration between the two companies, with many of the AEV engineers being former Jeep employees.Does AEV do anything to beef up the axles, ball joints, axle shafts, knuckles, etc. to handle 37’s? I would be surprised if Jeep would warranty the stock axles while running 37’s.
What about us geezers that bought CJs off the lineI think it has to do with capability and market segment - when you're spending 45-60k or more on a vehicle, and it does exactly what you need it to do out of the box, it's harder to justify expensive mods in a recession (2x decline in gdp by quarter is how I'd define that). Conversely, if you're lookin to do some real serious rock crawling, you're not likely to select a vehicle that costs 45-60k that doesn't do what you need it to do until you spend upwards of another 20k on a lift, axles, regear, wheels/tires etc.
What is fun about the older vehicles my buddies and I always had/still have: Jeep's TJ/JK, 1st/2nd Gen Tacomas/FJ's etc, is at the end of the day even their refinements are simple. AC is a feature - maybe there's lockers...maybe not. Not difficult to add if you really need it. Most things are actuated by simple motors and pushrods/cables. In the case of the TJ and Tacos, a belt turns the fan and it's super easy to check the clutch. You can even get valve lash adjusters out in about an hour if you know how to pop them off. They're just....easy...and fun to work on.
The current vehicles are not this way - and that's fine - it allows Jeep to get some more dollars per vehicle. It lets people who'd never buy a Wrangler enjoy them. I have zero doubt, however, the average JL purchaser now is in a different market segment than the average TJ buyer in 2006 when they rolled the last of the 4.0s off the line.
Back in my day……Maybe it’s the substantial price increase, maybe they have moved onto other things but…
I was having a discussion with my wife tonight after we saw a modded JK, and we both agreed that during the JK’s prime there were many more modded Wranglers rolling around town then there are for JLs.
Ive felt like this for a while now, I rarely see lifted JL’s with larger tires and aesthetic mods anymore…All I’d see is the occasional JT with large muds, a roof rack and lift.
Hell I used to see JKs with dynatrac axles runnin around town more than I see modded JL’s nowadays. Maybe those people all switched over to muscle cars for now since there are more Dodge Chargers on the road than Honda Civics lol. When I had my 2015 Sahara I felt like I was part of a big family…always waving…now it’s soccer moms in JLs lol