Ereanor
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Hi All,
My name is Jon, and I have decided that it is time to retire my current DD to weekend driver/ racecar. I Want something that is quieter and more comfortable then the car I drive now. It also has to be fun and something that I enjoy. This has led me to the Wrangler. I am on the fence between the JL and the JK Rubicon.
The only reason I am undecided is because of the compression ratio and the lack of good tuners for it for forced induction (I only started searching for the last month, so please forgive my ignorance). I understand that this is not a performance vehicle, so there will not be the reputation of top tuners for sports cars with overwhelmingly great followers. I do not want sports car like performance, I just want something that will get out of it's own way when needed. I plan on a SC due to simplicity on adding to a NA vehicle, but I also like the variables a turbo comes with.
With saying this, I understand the JL's are popping more than the JK's. And while it is technically a new platform with the changes, this can be expected. I am still leaning for the JL, but why hasn't the following being discussed;
E85. Doesnt have to be straight, just has to have a few gallon mix to deter knock (tuning required). A small mix 25%-50% of E85 mixed with premium doesn't usually cause problems with vehicles that are not set up to support flex-fuel. After a E50, you also start to see diminishing gains.
I have seen videos of the Prodigy Turbos on Kevin's rig. He was talking about hearing knock. When this happens, it is usually an event that will cause damage if it is audible. Maybe not at the time, but after enough detonation, it will.
Why is there no tuning solution that will monitor how many degrees of timing the ECU is retarding due to the knock sensor detecting pre-detonation? And allowing the driver to observe and adjust until the event is sorted out?
If one has access to E85 to mix with premium, are there tuning solutions that can accommodate multiple maps? E85 mix for good performance, and another map that pulls timing when you only have access to 93 etc.?
Or do I have all of this wrong, and no one has full access to the ECU yet?
Thank you all in advance, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this platform.
My name is Jon, and I have decided that it is time to retire my current DD to weekend driver/ racecar. I Want something that is quieter and more comfortable then the car I drive now. It also has to be fun and something that I enjoy. This has led me to the Wrangler. I am on the fence between the JL and the JK Rubicon.
The only reason I am undecided is because of the compression ratio and the lack of good tuners for it for forced induction (I only started searching for the last month, so please forgive my ignorance). I understand that this is not a performance vehicle, so there will not be the reputation of top tuners for sports cars with overwhelmingly great followers. I do not want sports car like performance, I just want something that will get out of it's own way when needed. I plan on a SC due to simplicity on adding to a NA vehicle, but I also like the variables a turbo comes with.
With saying this, I understand the JL's are popping more than the JK's. And while it is technically a new platform with the changes, this can be expected. I am still leaning for the JL, but why hasn't the following being discussed;
E85. Doesnt have to be straight, just has to have a few gallon mix to deter knock (tuning required). A small mix 25%-50% of E85 mixed with premium doesn't usually cause problems with vehicles that are not set up to support flex-fuel. After a E50, you also start to see diminishing gains.
I have seen videos of the Prodigy Turbos on Kevin's rig. He was talking about hearing knock. When this happens, it is usually an event that will cause damage if it is audible. Maybe not at the time, but after enough detonation, it will.
Why is there no tuning solution that will monitor how many degrees of timing the ECU is retarding due to the knock sensor detecting pre-detonation? And allowing the driver to observe and adjust until the event is sorted out?
If one has access to E85 to mix with premium, are there tuning solutions that can accommodate multiple maps? E85 mix for good performance, and another map that pulls timing when you only have access to 93 etc.?
Or do I have all of this wrong, and no one has full access to the ECU yet?
Thank you all in advance, and I apologize for my lack of knowledge on this platform.
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