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Okay, Definitely some truth in there, but I wouldn't be so quick to wave the doomsday signs.

Wranglers can get monstrously expensive for sure and dealers tend to overstock on the expensive ones. I for one would like to see prices back down to pre 2020 levels.
 

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Much of this can be said about a lot of things. Granted that doesnt make this not true. Has everyone else rose their price of vehicles by as much though?
 

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Much of this can be said about a lot of things. Granted that doesnt make this not true. Has everyone else rose their price of vehicles by as much though?
I mean you can configure a damn Tacoma north of $70,000 these days.
 

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Much of this can be said about a lot of things. Granted that doesnt make this not true. Has everyone else rose their price of vehicles by as much though?
Ford, yes! My work truck (F-250 XL 4x4) was about 36-38k in 17, and now a similar one will clear 50k easy.
 

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Closest I could get to "My" F-250... and its over 60k MSRP. It forced a change to the 7.3 liter and the STX package when I switched to 4x4. I guess you can't get any options with the 6.8, lol.

Jeep Wrangler JL Interesting video: American Auto Failures: JEEP 1715285991835-xb
 

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I’m not going to watch a 15 minute unknown YT video.

But:
-Jeeps are one of the vehicles where it is fairly easy to get +/-10% off sticker, so MSRP is not what you pay
-Jeep is probably the easiest mainstream (or maybe any) manufacturer to place an order with for a vehicle so you can get exactly what you want and not pay for what you don’t want
-A lot of the very high sticker vehicles have high $$& options on them (V8, big wheels/tires, exotic one touch roof, etc etc). I don’t like the price creep either but building up a top level Jeep with crazy options and then whining about the price is dumb
 

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A lot of the very high sticker vehicles have high $$& options on them (V8, big wheels/tires, exotic one touch roof, etc).

I don’t like the price creep either but building up a top level Jeep with crazy options and then whining about the price is dumb
It's easier for the consumer to complain about the high price of his vehicle -- which he voluntarily purchased -- than it is for him to be truly honest about Want vs. Need. The latter word is used in place of the former much too frequently, particularly as it concerns the high-buck options that many claim they can't live without.

If you like something, fine. Just be honest about wanting it for the sake of wanting it.
 

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I'm sorry but that video is all over the place. I get the point they're trying to make but it is in desperate need of some judicious editing. Too much personal opinion and anecdote and then suddenly Jeep needs to build a museum???
 
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It's easier for the consumer to complain about the high price of his vehicle -- which he voluntarily purchased -- than it is for him to be truly honest about Want vs. Need. The latter word is used in place of the former much too frequently, particularly as it concerns the high-buck options that many claim they can't live without.

If you like something, fine. Just be honest about wanting it for the sake of wanting it.
James, you hit on something that has always been very important to me, as a military leader/instructor, and as a civilian martial arts, combatives, self-defense, and firearms instructor. I always tell new students, “Everyone knows what they WANT. Few people seldom know what they actually NEED.”
 

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I think that his points on the bailout were spot on. At least in that if a company knows the government won’t let them fail, why address the business practices that took you to failure in the first place.

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James, you hit on something that has always been very important to me, as a military leader/instructor, and as a civilian martial arts, combatives, self-defense, and firearms instructor. I always tell new students, “Everyone knows what they WANT. Few people seldom know what they actually NEED.”
What do those things have anything to do with knowing the difference between a want and a need? lol
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