Interesting data on curb weights with different engines

[Matstock4]

I have been looking to upgrade our '18 Sport S. I love that wrangler has so many options and choices. They do such a great job on trim and power plant that I could make a great case for any purchase. One way that I'm planning on narrowing my purchase decision is going with a loaded Rubicon and a big consideration towards weight. IMO the more you offroad the more importance weight truly is.

After searching this forum for a bit I haven't found a concise list of specs of curb weight based on engine/transmission. I wanted to share a site that I found that lists those specs. Here's the website and an excerpt:

4th Generation (JL)	Curb Weight
2.0 L Hurricane I4-T (gasoline/gasoline hybrid) 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	3,948 – 4,549 lbs (1,791 – 2,063 Kg)
2.0 L Hurricane I4-T (gasoline PHEV; 4XE plug-in hybrid) 8P75PH PHEV 8-speed automatic ** 2021 release	5,000 – 5,222 lbs (2,268 – 2,369 Kg)
2.2 L Multijet II I4-T (diesel), 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	4,178 – 4,623 lbs (1,895 – 2,097 Kg)
3.0 L EcoDiesel V6-T (diesel), 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	4,654 – 4,862 lbs (2,111 – 2,205 Kg)
3.6 L Pentastar V6 (gasoline/gasoline hybrid) D478 6-speed manual w/ overdrive	3,948 – 4,478 lbs (1,791 – 2,031 Kg)
3.6 L Pentastar V6 (gasoline hybrid) 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	3,919 – 4,921 lbs (1,778 – 2,232 Kg)
6.4 L Hemi V8 (gasoline), 8HP75 8-speed automatic w/ overdrive ** 2021 release	5,103 lbs (2,315 Kg)

Some of the surprises for me was the difference in the 3.6 manual vs auto, 392/4xe vs everything else. If I was primarily looking at on road performance I would not hesitate to take the extra power of the 392/4xe.

I would love everyone's input on these findings and if I'm putting too much into the weight consideration, etc.

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[PatrickR]

I have been looking to upgrade our '18 Sport S. I love that wrangler has so many options and choices. They do such a great job on trim and power plant that I could make a great case for any purchase. One way that I'm planning on narrowing my purchase decision is going with a loaded Rubicon and a big consideration towards weight. IMO the more you offroad the more importance weight truly is.

After searching this forum for a bit I haven't found a concise list of specs of curb weight based on engine/transmission. I wanted to share a site that I found that lists those specs. Here's the website and an excerpt:

4th Generation (JL)	Curb Weight
2.0 L Hurricane I4-T (gasoline/gasoline hybrid) 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	3,948 – 4,549 lbs (1,791 – 2,063 Kg)
2.0 L Hurricane I4-T (gasoline PHEV; 4XE plug-in hybrid) 8P75PH PHEV 8-speed automatic ** 2021 release	5,000 – 5,222 lbs (2,268 – 2,369 Kg)
2.2 L Multijet II I4-T (diesel), 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	4,178 – 4,623 lbs (1,895 – 2,097 Kg)
3.0 L EcoDiesel V6-T (diesel), 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	4,654 – 4,862 lbs (2,111 – 2,205 Kg)
3.6 L Pentastar V6 (gasoline/gasoline hybrid) D478 6-speed manual w/ overdrive	3,948 – 4,478 lbs (1,791 – 2,031 Kg)
3.6 L Pentastar V6 (gasoline hybrid) 850RE Torqueflite 8-speed automatic	3,919 – 4,921 lbs (1,778 – 2,232 Kg)
6.4 L Hemi V8 (gasoline), 8HP75 8-speed automatic w/ overdrive ** 2021 release	5,103 lbs (2,315 Kg)

Some of the surprises for me was the difference in the 3.6 manual vs auto, 392/4xe vs everything else. If I was primarily looking at on road performance I would not hesitate to take the extra power of the 392/4xe.

I would love everyone's input on these findings and if I'm putting too much into the weight consideration, etc.

I'd bet the difference in curb weight on manual/auto (w/ auto lighter) comes down to the manual having a d44 rear axle and the auto having the d35 in base form.

 

[Matstock4]

I'd bet the difference in curb weight on manual/auto (w/ auto lighter) comes down to the manual having a d44 rear axle and the auto having the d35 in base form.

Hmm I read it as the auto being actually heavier and by a decent margin.

 

[Matstock4]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...r-weight-tow-capacity-max-payload-specs.1440/

This is dated info IMO. I don't know how accurate it is... with the diesel being 2yrs off from production when this was posted. Hey they even were calling the Gladiator a Scrambler when it was originally posted. Also it says nothing to the 4xe or 392.

 

[PatrickR]

Hmm I read it as the auto being actually heavier and by a decent margin.

The base weights show the manual as slightly heavier. I'm certain the auto trans is a good bit heavier. I was trying to explain why the base weights are not what you'd expect.

 

[Matstock4]

The base weights show the auto as slightly heavier. I'm certain the auto trans is a good bit heavier. I was trying to explain why the base weights are not what you'd expect.

Exactly! Very confusing. That's why I am looking at the "loaded versions" on the site I referenced above. Since I'm targeting a loaded Rubicon that's easier. So what I'm seeing is the 3.6 manual is 4,478 pounds vs 3.6 auto of 4,921 pounds. Does the auto tranny really weigh about 450lbs more??

 

[RedundanT]

Buy what you want, can afford and like the best. Life is too short for technical BS.

 

[Retrograde]

...I was trying to explain why the base weights are not what you'd expect.

Actually, those figures are exactly what I figured. Admit it, the current Wranglers are bloated pigs compared to the original version...

1966 CJ5 :

Curb weight (without a driver):
Dry weight:	1031 kg / 2273 lbs
Shipping weight:	981 kg / 2163 lbs
Gross vehicle weight rating GVWR:	1701 kg / 3750 lbs

 

[SecondTJ]

Jeep lists curb weights every year



https://s3.amazonaws.com/chryslerme..._JP_Wrangler_SPpr9cq0ipusqbj1krgeoq0pu45s.pdf

 

[SecondTJ]

I'd bet the difference in curb weight on manual/auto (w/ auto lighter) comes down to the manual having a d44 rear axle and the auto having the d35 in base form.

Nope

 

[deserteagle56]

The above charts are just confusing to me...some showing the diesel not much heavier than some gas models. Yet Jeep states that the diesel engine is ~ 400 lbs heavier than any of their gas engines.

 

[PatrickR]

Exactly! Very confusing. That's why I am looking at the "loaded versions" on the site I referenced above. Since I'm targeting a loaded Rubicon that's easier. So what I'm seeing is the 3.6 manual is 4,478 pounds vs 3.6 auto of 4,921 pounds. Does the auto tranny really weigh about 450lbs more??

Perhaps the 3.6 weights include the "mild hybrid" version as well? I'm sure that adds a bit of weight.

 

[Matstock4]

Perhaps the 3.6 weights include the "mild hybrid" version as well? I'm sure that adds a bit of weight.

Yep it's got to be just that...

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