Even if it had a turn key for ignition, you'd still have software in control of the ignition, as the key no longer just closes the circuit to the starter motor. It tells the computer to start the motor.
I order my mine with a manual and will have to get used to this, because I do the same thing: put it in neutral and set the parking brake and let out the clutch and then shut off the engine and then put it back in gear once the engine is stopped.
I told them if they didn't turn it off, I was returning the Jeep. They did it for no charge. The Tazer JL will let you do the same thing. You just set the default state to "off" and pressing the ESS button rather than turn it off, turns it back on...
I suspect a more likely case is someone (perhaps elderly) pulling the car into the garage and then getting distracted by something else and forgetting to turn the car off.
Yes I agree I miss the times when you needed a key made you could just go to the hardware store and get a key made. Or to you have to go to the dealer and pay $500 unless you get it from a locksmith and it's still going to cost you $700 with these new key
A solution to this would be to put a large enough lift kit on the Jeep and tires large enough that you could not get the vehicle in the garage.If you're too drunk to turn the car off than wouldn't you be too drunk to close the garage? Must I say it. Don't drink and park.
I've only had to replace the starter on 2 vehicles that I've ever owned. One was a '69 Pontiac and the starter died in the late '70s, IIRC. Pretty easy to replace since there was a lot of room under those cars back then. The other was a 2011 VW Golf TDI that my daughter drives and it happened maybe a year ago. I suspect that the auto stop-start will probably result in more starter failures, but the worst thing is that these failures will happen at intersections instead of in parking lots or at home in your driveway / garage. A failed started along with an automatic transmission means that you are not going to be able to push start it or get a jump start from someone else if you have jumper cables. The Golf TDI mentioned above had a standard transmission, so it was easy to push start when the starter started getting flaky. A manual transmission gives you more options. And these days, the millennial car thieves often don't know how to drive a manual, so it even acts as a theft deterrent feature.
And, of course, that few hundred dollars is being added onto the initial car when you are buying it. Pretty offensive to have to be paying $500+ for a feature that I don't want, don't need, and which will cost me more money later on.
If you can tell the computer to start the engine, that means that the computer is also told to *stop* the engine. If the car is advertised as having keyless features and there's also Bluetooth connectivity, how do we know that the manufacturer (or software developer) did not put a "feature" in the code to allow the engine to be turned on or off by a particular command sent via Bluetooth? Maybe they thought that it would be a "neat feature" for law enforcement at some future time. Even if you ignore the possibility of some crooked cops using this "feature" at disreputable times, there's always the potential for other criminals to gain access to this feature and put your safety at risk. People these days just don't look at the potential security hazards that technology might cause. Hell, these are the same people who are so clueless that they are putting devices like Alexa into their homes and letting it listen to everything that they say and possibly sent it out on the internet, just so that they don't have to walk across the room and turn their stereo on.
I know GM's OnStar system can disable a vehicle for law enforcement, so it wouldn't surprise me if FCA has a similar system.If you can tell the computer to start the engine, that means that the computer is also told to *stop* the engine. If the car is advertised as having keyless features and there's also Bluetooth connectivity, how do we know that the manufacturer (or software developer) did not put a "feature" in the code to allow the engine to be turned on or off by a particular command sent via Bluetooth? Maybe they thought that it would be a "neat feature" for law enforcement at some future time. Even if you ignore the possibility of some crooked cops using this "feature" at disreputable times, there's always the potential for other criminals to gain access to this feature and put your safety at risk. People these days just don't look at the potential security hazards that technology might cause. Hell, these are the same people who are so clueless that they are putting devices like Alexa into their homes and letting it listen to everything that they say and possibly sent it out on the internet, just so that they don't have to walk across the room and turn their stereo on.
I've seen a woman stuck at a gas pump at a gas station because her SUV had the keyless entry / start thing on it. When she left the house, the car apparently was connected to the key fob that was in the house or maybe her husband's pocket. It allowed her to drive off and get to the gas station. She then turned the car off and refueled. Since she was no longer in range of the keyless fobs (since it was *miles* away), she could not start the car back up and was stuck there. And, to make matters worse for everyone else, the car could not be shifted out of "park" and pushed to another parking spot to free up the pump and that particular station did not have very many pumps.
