If the standard option was a fixed windshield would you pay an extra $100 for a folding windshield

[JIMBOX]

It'll be a cold day in hell, before I ever fold down my windshield--

I wouldn't pay $10 bucks more if it was an option-

OOPS, I may have to fold it down to remedy wind noise, which wouldn't be there if the windshield wasn't hung on a sky hook !

Whatever

JIMBO

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[Torenhall]

There are straps to secure the windshield to the hood.

That come with the Jeep?

 

[Torenhall]

I ride motorcycles. I like wind - a lot. For the life of me, I just can’t imagine why I would want to drive around with the windshield down on my Jeep.

Thanks for the warning, but I knew this without even experimenting. By the way, you will really want some first rate cushioning and tie-downs for the windshield if you do this on rough roads/trails.

Obviously my warning was more intended for laughs at my own oversight than an actual psa. I'm familiar with basic aerodynamics

If I am going to actually spend some time with the windshield down I'll probably just remove it entirely. Looks better that way and it's easier provided you have somewhere to store it.

 

[GARRIGA]

That come with the Jeep?

I’d expect they would. Jeep video demonstrating it seemed to imply they were provided. If not I’m sure Mopar can provide. They looked like simple straps. Can’t be more than a few dollars.

I wouldn’t drive around with it down without being strapped. Personally. I’d rather take the extra few minutes to remove it. Don’t know how well those straps would hold if there were an accident.

 

[Torenhall]

I’d expect they would. Jeep video demonstrating it seemed to imply they were provided. If not I’m sure Mopar can provide. They looked like simple straps. Can’t be more than a few dollars.

I wouldn’t drive around with it down without being strapped. Personally. I’d rather take the extra few minutes to remove it. Don’t know how well those straps would hold if there were an accident.

What can I say, I like to live dangerously.

I wonder where they would be stowed if provided?

 

[GARRIGA]

What can I say, I like to live dangerously.

I wonder where they would be stowed if provided?

I’d call the dealer. Wouldn’t the owners manual have the list of items included like tool kit? Can’t believe they’d make you buy them. Jeep is expensive enough as is.

 

[RussJeep1]

I wouldn't pay more for a fold down windshield. I suspect many feel the way I do, and entirely respect those that don't, and yet, a part of me is glad that FCA kept this in, and think I have an idea why they did.

The JL is a computer......that happens to have a vehicle attached to it.

For many die hard Wrangler owners, at least when it comes to their rig, they choose the metaphorical "manual" selection over the "automatic"--and that can apply to windows, transmissions and lots of things.

Given the choice of digital or analog, the same group might opt for analog..or maybe not, loving good sound systems too.

The point is that to do the drop down windshield presented a hat tip of sorts to the legacy of the Wrrangler, giving the true die hard loyalists something at the same time as the power top did to those more likely to exclusively use the rig on road.

(I judge neither market segment. I just accept the reality that they exist and that FCA has to please both somewhat to maximize profit.)

The windshield's folding downside made things like rain sensitive windshield wipers more difficult (FCA will overcome this too I'm sure in time) but their marketing quants assured them that the public would be okay absent of this feature. (Note to self, I wish the back windshield wiper on the hard top had a variable setting, but to a diehard, the fact that even have a back wiper is a sell out.)

Once the folding front windshield was engineered, I'm not sure than a fixed one would have been cheaper to make or build, to pass along savings to the public.

The Wrangler is being tugged in two directions: one to its legacy, and one to the future with electric vehicles and autonomous driving. The latter makes me laugh somewhat, as the beauty of the Wrangler is, for those who love it, driving it, not having a computer do it for you.

 

[NM Original]

The Wrangler is being tugged in two directions: one to its legacy, and one to the future with electric vehicles and autonomous driving.

Nice write up. You say a lot, very well.

In one of the JL Reveal events, the head of design mentioned the folding windshield. Among his comments was that; “it was a fight to keep it in.”

 

[word302]

I ride motorcycles. I like wind - a lot. For the life of me, I just can’t imagine why I would want to drive around with the windshield down on my Jeep.

Thanks for the warning, but I knew this without even experimenting. By the way, you will really want some first rate cushioning and tie-downs for the windshield if you do this on rough roads/trails.

On the trail, when you get a little dust/mud on the windshield and then add sun glare to the picture, folding down the windshield is a life-saver.

 

[Torenhall]

Nice write up. You say a lot, very well.

In one of the JL Reveal events, the head of design mentioned the folding windshield. Among his comments was that; “it was a fight to keep it in.”

Yea, I read that during the JL design phase, whenever it came to a decision that could go either in favor of the marketing team or the engineering team (legacy), the engineering team won the day. It really shows in the JL. It off roads incredibly, and is a real treat to drive on the road as well.

 

[GARRIGA]

Jeep already has a hard top option not recommended for removal to accommodate a push bottun open option. Seems like a deviation from norm. I’m glad I can still buy a Jeep with folding front glass. Things that separate a Jeep from DD SUVs.

Solid axles
4WD
Topless
Removeable doors
Folding windshield

If one doesn’t crave those than much more comfortable options exist. Being honest. $30-$50k for a box on wheels seems nuts. But it’s a Jeep. That makes it priceless.

 

[NM Original]

On the trail, when you get a little dust/mud on the windshield and then add sun glare to the picture, folding down the windshield is a life-saver.

That sounds reasonable, if you didn’t have windshield wipers, or some how your face and the interior of the Jeep were somehow impervious to the dust/mud/tar/glare/branches/and bugs that totally made your windshield opaque.
It is really cool it folds down, but it only has limited utility.

 

[JIMBOX]

People that drive with their windshield down---are-

Not smiling people !

Whatever

JIMBO

 

[GARRIGA]

Never forget.

 

[JIMBOX]

Heh Heh, yeah--wave to me as you go by on I80--in the rain-

Whatever

JIMBO