mdelzer
Well-Known Member
- First Name
- Mark
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2018
- Threads
- 13
- Messages
- 254
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- 331
- Location
- Grand Rapids, MI
- Website
- www.undercontrollabs.com
- Vehicle(s)
- 2018 JULR Sting-Gray
- Occupation
- Developer, Home Automation and AV
I mean...I don't need the FIRST ONE, I'm happy to order on day one and get one of the first in SoCal : )@KSpider Honestly if you want to own one of the first you'd be better off trying to work with a dealer here in Michigan or in Ohio and paying to ship it again or drive it home cross country.
But lets be honest, it's probably still cheaper to buy out of Michigan and pay to ship it. I wonder if it will qualify for the clean air vehicle stickers for HOV lane access? Or move to Michigan, I don't miss LA and our beaches on Lake Michigan are just as awesome with less fires, earth quakes, and people.I mean...I don't need the FIRST ONE, I'm happy to order on day one and get one of the first in SoCal : )
That is awesome, CA used to have 2500, but that's all gone.another thing recently I just relocated to Colorado I just found out they have incentives I here for Hybrids and electric vehicles. if the car is available before 2021 it looks is an extra 4K in state taxes that's 11,000 on tax credits. sweet. this could be a great deal.
i'm sursprised by the amount:That is awesome, CA used to have 2500, but that's all gone.
NJ will be around $700-$800. Wish it was more (basing it off of the Pacifica one right now).That is awesome, CA used to have 2500, but that's all gone.
Do you eat corn or anything sweetened with HFCS or put ethanol in your gas? Then you already receive subsidies. It's about what we want subsidized, not whether any should be given.Basically, you and I pay him for buying a new rig that may or may not be better for the environment. The irony doesn't stop there - what state is in the news more for power grid issues than 3rd world countries? California. When the grid isn't busy burning the state down and killing people, it's handing out unannounced "rolling blackouts".
That's quite a stretch you are making and have, unsurprisingly, failed. I did not state all subsides are bad. No reasonable person would. What I am stating is that huge subsidies for items that only the wealthy can afford, under the guise of being good for the environment, is wrong. Especially when there's no data to support that it's better for the environment or that the current infrastructure can even support it. You need look no further than California for confirmation.Do you eat corn or anything sweetened with HFCS or put ethanol in your gas? Then you already receive subsidies. It's about what we want subsidized, not whether any should be given.
I used to lease a fiat 500e and with the subsidies it was about $10 a month. Didnāt have to be rich to do thatThat's quite a stretch you are making and have, unsurprisingly, failed. I did not state all subsides are bad. No reasonable person would. What I am stating is that huge subsidies for items that only the wealthy can afford, under the guise of being good for the environment, is wrong. Especially when there's no data to support that it's better for the environment or that the current infrastructure can even support it. You need look no further than California for confirmation.
I'd say $6-8k over what every normal 2.0 engine w/no electric would beCome one Jeep where is the price?
Iām estimating base $42,995.
I agree with that price, but the add ons will add up depending on the whatās going to be standard so far we know:I'd say $6-8k over what every normal 2.0 engine w/no electric would be