wrangster
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Many small firearms fit into the top center console glove box just fine. Out of site out of mind and readily available.
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Let me know if you come up with anything....I just can't figure a way to make it reasonably work. Thanks for your order this am...I assume one of them was yours.Very much considering that. Did some research and it looks workable. Plus I looked into that table on the tailgate. Might do that too.
As long as you are OK with a loaded gun pointing at either you or the front seat passenger....you are good.Many small firearms fit into the top center console glove box just fine. Out of site out of mind and readily available.
Agreed, this is usually what I do when I get to the doctor's office, with doors closed.IF I did carry and went in someplace where I couldnât legally take my firearm, I wouldnât want to unholster at the back of the Jeep where prying eyes (and cameraâs) could see. I would prefer to unholster in the relative privacy of the interior of my Jeep. Seems like a console safe is better. My humble opinion.
Love this set up. Thanks for the post! Plan on same set up.Guns and Jeeps are always a hot topic and most times get unnessesarily off track. So please, if you have the urge to get all anti-gun....just act like an adult and move on to another thread.
There are not many products that actually excite me (As a disclaimer, I have no connection with Vaultek at all)....especially enough to go and buy 3 of their products in a matter of days. I spend a lot of time with guns and am very supportive of anything that promote safety and keeps them out of the hands of criminals. This seems like a great option for our lifestyle so I thought that I would share.
I conceal carry near constantly, however...there are times that I am obligated to store my gun in my vehicle. Up until now that has been a challenge mostly because most portable gun safes are not designed for true automotive use (in particular, the rigors of off road and open vehicle usage. They F'n rattle and provide virtually zero protection from the elements. The locks are not reliable and if they are....they are tedious at best to open.
Enter the Vaultek Lifepod series travel vault
I hard mounted one of mine to my Springtail Tailgate Table
- Inexpensive ($107 at Amazon)
- Airtight/Water resistant (Enough to float)
- Programmable to any combination between 4-8 digits
- Big enough for a Glock 19 and spare magazine
- Has a few options like an Organizer for cards and cash etc, Also a cable loop to secure almost anywhere (Hotel, Car etc). Although....I think it is dumb that they don't include the cable loop for free. (A little tip....if you order the black one from Amazon, some have been reported to come with a cable. I ordered 2 black safes, one came with it and one did not).
- Multiple colors (I think its like Black, Gold (ish), Grey, Orange, Multicam and there are a couple special editions).
- It is composed of a tough polymer (feels much like a Glock)....it feels very sturdy, I know that it is drop tested but not sure to what extent. I am sure that if someone spent enough time trying to open it....with some effort and tools they could. But it is certainly way more secure than probably what you are doing now.
- I don't think that it particularly looks like a safe which is nice.
- I have found the lock to be super reliable and easy to operate.
MOLLE rack....it seems like a perfect place to discretely stow the gun before proceeding into the places where am restricted. It matches the Punk'n and does not appear out of place in the Jeep.
Doc
Sorry, but I take issue with this statement. Is the firearm going to shoot itself? A holstered handgun with the appropriate safeties is of no concern to me in the console. If I was concerned with the likelihood of my CC firing inadvertently, I wouldn't carry behind the back (you'll shoot your ass off, kid...) and I damn sure would not appendix carry.....As long as you are OK with a loaded gun pointing at either you or the front seat passenger....you are good.
Try it and you will see what I'm talking about.
Doc
It does not point at the front seats, I have it pointing to the rear. And besides that you do not have to keep 1 chambered but I do. The sub compact 380s today are amazingly small.Let me know if you come up with anything....I just can't figure a way to make it reasonably work. Thanks for your order this am...I assume one of them was yours.
As long as you are OK with a loaded gun pointing at either you or the front seat passenger....you are good.
Try it and you will see what I'm talking about.
Doc
Fundamentally, I donât disagree with you. From a practical position...I do. âHolsteredâ is the key word here.Sorry, but I take issue with this statement. Is the firearm going to shoot itself? A holstered handgun with the appropriate safeties is of no concern to me in the console. If I was concerned with the likelihood of my CC firing inadvertently, I wouldn't carry behind the back (you'll shoot your ass off, kid...) and I damn sure would not appendix carry.....
I would take that a step further in mentioning...it does not matter what kind of safe you have, if they steal your vehicle. They can take their own sweet time opening whatever you have in there.I like the tailgate set up. Even if the gun box was used for other things. I also believe that if someone breaks into your vehicle, a gun box, or a lock box will not stop them from taking what they want. If a locked door, a locked glove compartment or locked center console doesn't stop them, a gun box will not either. 99% of the stuff you buy can be easily defeated by a determined individual.
I think that a gun in the glove compartment or the center console is just as secure as any of the boxes that you guys are buying. One thing that I learned from working in prison for 30 years is nothing is a tough or as secure as you think it is. Note: I have seen cement block walls with hole blown threw them by a convict using a bed sheet. So if you place your belief in a lock box that has a stamped metal box with a cast lock barrel and a soft metal bolt......well may luck be on your side.
Just do a quick search on Youtube for any of the gun boxes that you plan to buy and see if there is a video of someone opening it in under a minute.
hiding your gun in the Jeep would probably work better. Like a magnet under the dash up in the footwell or on top of the soundbar.
What exactly is an âhonest thiefâ?Fundamentally, I donât disagree with you. From a practical position...I do. âHolsteredâ is the key word here.
1) I donât remove my holster when stowing my gun. So it comes out naked.... hence the fitted foam in the safe.
Certainly not safe rattling around in a center console.
2) Iâm not sure how well a holstered gun would fit in the center console. As I recall my Glock 26 barely fits with a pocket holster...I found any of my kydex holsters would fit.
3) I was taught in a stricter sense than you....loaded/unloaded, safeties in place or not, the barrel of the gun never gets pointed at anything that I donât intend to destroy.
That includes my junk downstairs (I donât get the appeal of appendix carry anyway). Iâve seen too many negligent discharges in my life where someone broke that rule.
I would take that a step further in mentioning...it does not matter what kind of safe you have, if they steal your vehicle. They can take their own sweet time opening whatever you have in there.
Years ago, I had my crewcab stolen in Kansas City....once you start compiling the daily items that are normally in your vehicle it will amaze you. No guns were in the truck...but I had about a $2000 list of tools and other stuff that disappeared. When the truck was recovered, the thieves tossed everything they did not want in the bed of truck
My recommendations will only help In slowing down an honest thief or a someone grabbing something out of the open Jeep. As a general rule, criminals go after the easy prey....if there is some meaningful impediment, they will move to an easier target.
As a side note: This is partially why I developed the rip away bags. They go in the hotel with me a night. Itâs hard to steal something thatâs not there in the first place.
Doc
Person who commits an opportunistic crime.What exactly is an âhonest thiefâ?
Definition of âHonestyâ per Oxford Dictionary:Person who commits an opportunistic crime.
Example: Passing by an open Jeep and taking a wallet that was left on the seat.
Itâs a phrase that I did not invent.Definition of âHonestyâ per Oxford Dictionary:
free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere.
Definition of âThiefâ per Oxford Dictionary: a person who steals another person's property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.
Above are the definitions of both words you used together. In my 30 Years of walking the earth Iâve never heard such bull. How can a person be honest and a thief?
Would an honest person deprive another person of property or anything of value? I would have to say no.
In my six years of law enforcement, Iâve never crossed paths with an honest thief, mostly because they donât exist.
Thiefâs by nature care only about themselves, stealing to fuel a drug habit or for financial gain.
Next time you come here and post about some garbage product you think is awesome and are presented with facts showing how itâs trash, donât resort to justifying it by classifying honest and dishonest, you sound like a damn fool.
Bud, no anger in my previous post, annoyed if anything. Just not understanding someoneâs idea of calling a thief honest.Itâs a phrase that I did not invent.
Someone certainly woke up on the âwrong side of the bedâ today.
Just to save you time in figuring that one out....
Cambridge Academic Dictionary
âWake up on wrong side of bedâ
To wake up in a bad mood
Doc