LeodaJeep
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I have a Jeep, my wife has a Prius. Somehow we still love each other.Agree.
Prius owners usually have “strong words” for Jeepers who use their tools as intended.
So it’s fair game.
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I have a Jeep, my wife has a Prius. Somehow we still love each other.Agree.
Prius owners usually have “strong words” for Jeepers who use their tools as intended.
So it’s fair game.
Well, a jeep is capable right off the car lot. You don't have to upgrade it unless there's a obstacle you want to conquer. That said, they're all waiting for the apocalypse!Lots of things are bought and not used for what they are intended for....like duct tape...It don't matter what you do with your Wrangler, it just matters that your a jeep kinda person. llllll
Sorry but just have to throw the BS card here.I'm surprised your Sahara was able to handle that dirt and mud. Seriously, everyone knows the Rubicon is the only model that is designed for off-roading. You are def risking damaging your rig if you keep wheeling it. Saharas and Sports are NOT made for that abuse!!!
Complete, total, unadulterated respect for wheeling in a Christmas necktie. Making the outdoors a little more genteel, and classing the forum boards up with each post. Thank you, sir!Sorry but just have to throw the BS card here.
JL's are all nearly identical except for powertrain and axle options. Even then, each and every engine, transmission and transfer case is VERY capable to go off-road.
It's the lockers, a little more clearance, Sway-bar disconnects and especially the tires that give the Rubicon it's advantage.
By far the locking axles are the Rubicon's best advantage BUT, both Sport and Sahara Trims offer the rear Limited Slip Differential (LSD) which can be far superior to lockers in many situations. ALSO, all trims (every one) comes standard with Brake Lock Differentials (BLD). This feature automatically applies braking force to specific individual slipping wheels in order to keep torque applied to the others when running on open diffs (2WD, 4HI and 4LO).
I've slightly modified my Sport S so that it is much more capable than any stock Rubicon. The only real magic is different tires. I've invested in All-Terrain 35's which did require a 2.5" inch lift. I also added a Teraflex Sway-Bar Quick Disconnect.
I regularly off-road and go places only Rubicon's typically venture. Not because only Rubicon's can, but because the people who venture off into the wilderness tend to buy the equipment with the lockers.
However, any Jeep (JL or otherwise), independent of trim can go almost everywhere a Rubicon can. It's primarily up to the skill of the driver. Open diffs can't simply 'muscle' their way through any obstacle. They have to pay better attention to wheel slip. Therefore have to be more disciplined in applied torque (power). Regardless, the BLD feature provides a huge improvement in the JL's off-road performance.
Each and every JL is able to go nearly anywhere. Mods only make it that much easier to get there. My Sport is no exception...
Mine was purpose-bought (mainly) to tow around behind a motorhome, because it is one of the few vehicles still produced that can easily be towed "four-flat". Before too many people groan, It is probably the best all-around vehicle to have when we reach our destinations. While small and nimble enough to handle popular tourist areas with hard-to-find parking, it will also run beaches, logging trails and a lot more, of course. Take the top and doors off, and it's great in warm sunny areas. I can't think of any other vehicle that would be at home doing everything the Jeep will do.Let me take a crack at the appeal to non-offroaders:
Did I miss anything?
- This is one of the only vehicles that defies demographics. I see drivers that are young/old, male/female, rich/poor, all ethnicities. My wife drives a Mini Cooper and I hesitate to drive it because it's thought of as a chick car. I know...that's silly thinking.
- The nice high vantage point to see over traffic - especially with lift/tires.
- The ACE rock rails make mine absolutely door ding proof in parking lots.
- I don't have to worry about scraping the nose on the parking spot wheel stop barriers.
- The Jeep laughs at roadway irregularities that would swallow up normal vehicles
- Surprisingly luxurious.
- Unprecedented resale value. And...my Jeeps tend to sell for more BECAUSE they weren't off-roaded. Every buyer has said that - including those who intend to off-road it.
- Made in America
- The image it projects - looks cool
If I was going to off-road I'd buy a SHERP, but that wouldn't be a good daily driver. [And it certainly doesn't tread lightly]
You got the prize!!! I was wondering if anyone would think I was seriousSorry but just have to throw the BS card here.
JL's are all nearly identical except for powertrain and axle options. Even then, each and every engine, transmission and transfer case is VERY capable to go off-road.
It's the lockers, a little more clearance, Sway-bar disconnects and especially the tires that give the Rubicon it's advantage.
By far the locking axles are the Rubicon's best advantage BUT, both Sport and Sahara Trims offer the rear Limited Slip Differential (LSD) which can be far superior to lockers in many situations. ALSO, all trims (every one) comes standard with Brake Lock Differentials (BLD). This feature automatically applies braking force to specific individual slipping wheels in order to keep torque applied to the others when running on open diffs (2WD, 4HI and 4LO).
I've slightly modified my Sport S so that it is much more capable than any stock Rubicon. The only real magic is different tires. I've invested in All-Terrain 35's which did require a 2.5" inch lift. I also added a Teraflex Sway-Bar Quick Disconnect.
I regularly off-road and go places only Rubicon's typically venture. Not because only Rubicon's can, but because the people who venture off into the wilderness tend to buy the equipment with the lockers.
However, any Jeep (JL or otherwise), independent of trim can go almost everywhere a Rubicon can. It's primarily up to the skill of the driver. Open diffs can't simply 'muscle' their way through any obstacle. They have to pay better attention to wheel slip. Therefore have to be more disciplined in applied torque (power). Regardless, the BLD feature provides a huge improvement in the JL's off-road performance.
Each and every JL is able to go nearly anywhere. Mods only make it that much easier to get there. My Sport is no exception...
We should start a thread on why non-Jeepers hate Jeeps. Should be entertaining.I have a Jeep, my wife has a Prius. Somehow we still love each other.
Its funny how everyone keeps calling the jeep a huge vehicle. You know you drive a useless pansy car when a jeep looks bigWe should start a thread on why non-Jeepers hate Jeeps. Should be entertaining.
But would you?Would you have critical words for someone who insisted on using a Prius as a tool on your ranch? Pretty sure you would.
They can slap on as many lights and bolt on as many plates as they want, it's still a front-wheel drive.But would you?
Really?
For real?
What do they say now?Prius owners usually have “strong words” for Jeepers who use their tools as intended.
This is true!!They can slap on as many lights and bolt on as many plates as they want, it's still a front-wheel drive.