Hurricane Wrangler

[DaltonGang]

What are the engine weights of the 4.0 Hurricane, and the 392 ??

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[jeepingib]

What are the engine weights of the 4.0 Hurricane, and the 392 ??

https://www.onallcylinders.com/2021...:text=III 6.4L Hemi Engine Specs&text=582 lbs.
That says 392 weighs around 582.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis_Hurricane_engine
And Wikipedia list the dry weight of the HO Hurricane as 441lbs.

 

[jellis4148]

My guess is the 3.6 will disappear and they will make a smaller version of the Hurricane. Maybe a 4 cylinder twin turbo or a small 2.5 6 cylinder. You can almost guarantee that 2028 will be the last year for the 3.6.

 

[jeepingib]

My guess is the 3.6 will disappear and they will make a smaller version of the Hurricane. Maybe a 4 cylinder twin turbo or a small 2.5 6 cylinder. You can almost guarantee that 2028 will be the last year for the 3.6.

Like the 2.0 4 Cylinder option?

 

[yokramer]

Like the 2.0 4 Cylinder option?

That already is part of the hurricane family?

No that cant be a thing

 

[grimmjeeper]

My guess is the 3.6 will disappear and they will make a smaller version of the Hurricane. Maybe a 4 cylinder twin turbo or a small 2.5 6 cylinder. You can almost guarantee that 2028 will be the last year for the 3.6.

 

[NWJeepr]

That already is part of the hurricane family?

No that cant be a thing

See… my 1.5L 3-cylinder Hurricane option starts to hold real weight.

Lop a cylinder off and it becomes a good size to start sticking under hoods of things like the Renegade, and base Wranglers when Stella is ready to throw the 3.6 overboard. Ahoy!

 

[Tokenwasp]

A little space between the engine and radiator isn’t going to make a bit of difference when you’re talking about an inline 6 with twin turbos.

The inter cooler and twin air boxes alone would make it impossible. You need to look at the I-6 hurricane dimensions so you can speak intelligently about it.

Never said the I-6 would fit - only that the 2.0 is NOT "cramped" in that engine bay.

 

[Tokenwasp]

What are the engine weights of the 4.0 Hurricane, and the 392 ??

Hurricane: 430 lbs for the standard output (SO) and 441 lbs for the high output (HO)
392: 500+ lbs.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

My guess is the 3.6 will disappear and they will make a smaller version of the Hurricane. Maybe a 4 cylinder twin turbo or a small 2.5 6 cylinder. You can almost guarantee that 2028 will be the last year for the 3.6.

Since a lot of this thread is speculating,

I foresee a bump in displacement of the current 2.0 single turbo to around 2.4 liters. That would replace the 3.6, and perhaps the 2.0. They would likely offer it with 2 different tunes, based on the trim level.

I would also not be surprised to see the current JL continued past 2028, with it's replacement on permanent hold. Perhaps with a significant amount of updating. Stellantis is in trouble and is hemorrhaging vast amounts of money just to keep the doors open. I doubt that risking an all new Wrangler is a priority right now, especially if it varies significantly from the long established Wrangler formula. Body on frame, removable top and doors, solid axles.

With the anticipated house cleaning at the EPA, and other agencies, the expected US pull out from the Paris Accord, and the possible challenges to CARB by the incoming administration, the future of the auto industry appears to be in limbo right now. If I was running a car company right now, I would put most of everything under development on hold, and concentrate on what is currently being produced.

 

[jellis4148]

Since a lot of this thread is speculating,

I foresee a bump in displacement of the current 2.0 single turbo to around 2.4 liters. That would replace the 3.6, and perhaps the 2.0. They would likely offer it with 2 different tunes, based on the trim level.

I would also not be surprised to see the current JL continued past 2028, with it's replacement on permanent hold. Perhaps with a significant amount of updating. Stellantis is in trouble and is hemorrhaging vast amounts of money just to keep the doors open. I doubt that risking an all new Wrangler is a priority right now, especially if it varies significantly from the long established Wrangler formula. Body on frame, removable top and doors, solid axles.

With the anticipated house cleaning at the EPA, and other agencies, the expected US pull out from the Paris Accord, and the possible challenges to CARB by the incoming administration, the future of the auto industry appears to be in limbo right now. If I was running a car company right now, I would put most of everything under development on hold, and concentrate on what is currently being produced.

I do agree with you for the most part, but the Wrangler is the bread and butter for Stellantis. That makes me think they will continue with the 2028 redesign. Ram trucks and Wranglers are what keep the CDJR brand profitable. The Wagoneer sales are horrible. The GC sales are okay. The rest of the models don't do very well at all.

 

[Tokenwasp]

Since a lot of this thread is speculating,

I foresee a bump in displacement of the current 2.0 single turbo to around 2.4 liters. That would replace the 3.6, and perhaps the 2.0. They would likely offer it with 2 different tunes, based on the trim level.

I would also not be surprised to see the current JL continued past 2028, with it's replacement on permanent hold. Perhaps with a significant amount of updating. Stellantis is in trouble and is hemorrhaging vast amounts of money just to keep the doors open. I doubt that risking an all new Wrangler is a priority right now, especially if it varies significantly from the long established Wrangler formula. Body on frame, removable top and doors, solid axles.

With the anticipated house cleaning at the EPA, and other agencies, the expected US pull out from the Paris Accord, and the possible challenges to CARB by the incoming administration, the future of the auto industry appears to be in limbo right now. If I was running a car company right now, I would put most of everything under development on hold, and concentrate on what is currently being produced.

Not updating the Wrangler is a bigger risk than updating it. The designs for the next GEN are well underway, and I guarantee they have a contingency for ICE options. We know it was going to include an REPB option, which means it has an ICE bay.

The auto industry actually got a lot of clarity a couple of weeks ago, and anyone not planning of producing what customers want is going to be left behind.

 

[yokramer]

Not updating the Wrangler is a bigger risk than updating it. The designs for the next GEN are well underway, and I guarantee they have a contingency for ICE options. We know it was going to include an REPB option, which means it has an ICE bay.

The auto industry actually got a lot of clarity a couple of weeks ago, and anyone not planning of producing what customers want is going to be left behind.

Yea its like people forget that any company like this has been planning the next generation before the current one has even released. Obviously they always have the ability to modify and tweak whats coming but they arent gonna just scrap 10 years of design and work because some guys on a forum are questioning their decisions.

 

[NWJeepr]

With the anticipated house cleaning at the EPA, and other agencies, the expected US pull out from the Paris Accord, and the possible challenges to CARB by the incoming administration, the future of the auto industry appears to be in limbo right now. If I was running a car company right now, I would put most of everything under development on hold, and concentrate on what is currently being produced.

Stella and the other big automakers have already agreed to keep following CARB rules as a matter of business practice specifically to provide stability for planning and development.

The probability of your 2026 Wrangler coming with a 5.7 or 6.4 Hemi as standard equipment and manual trans is exactly zero.

 

[Dusty Dude]

Stella and the other big automakers have already agreed to keep following CARB rules as a matter of business practice specifically to provide stability for planning and development.

The probability of your 2026 Wrangler coming with a 5.7 or 6.4 Hemi as standard equipment and manual trans is exactly zero.

The “agreement” means nothing if CARB gets obliterated (and it should). Car makers will build what people want if government gets out of the way. These automakers have been getting strangled by unrealistic regulations and green mandates for far too long.

I agree that a 5.7/6.4 with manual trans being standard equipment is a stretch, but it could definitely be an inexpensive option.

The farmers I grew up with would take a simple V8 over any complicated little 4/6 banger with a turbo attached to it.

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