Help with tire decisions

[HARRINGT0N]

I have a 2022 Willys Sport 2.0 turbo with 3.45 gears. I recently added an Icon Dynamics Stage 2 lift kit (2.5") which I got nearly 4" of lift from. I'm buying new wheels 17x9 with a -12mm offset and was looking at putting 35's on them. I'm trying to keep the weight down as much as possible but in my searching, I found these 37's on Amazon for less $ than the 35's I've been looking at. Does anybody have any feedback on whether this would be a bad idea considering the setup I have?
Here's the link to the tires in question; https://amzn.to/3FZA02B
The other Tires I've been thinking of getting are Goodyear Duratrac's 315/70/17
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[Punkn89]

Are you going to be mostly on road or will you off-roading the Jeep a lot?

 

[JT1]

37's on 3.45s isn't going to be fun. 35's probably won't either. I'd stick to the original plan and buy 35s or 315's

 

[Stuckinthesand]

I have the 3.6 on the 3.45 gearing with an AEV lift that netted me about 4" as well. I would not go above a 35" tire with mine without a regear. I lost 8th above 72mph as is and if you wheel at all the gears wont hold up with 37"s. Depending on what axles you have that could be a problem as well. I have the M220 rear and M186 front. 37"s are a big ask for the M186 when wheeling.

 

[COJeeper]

I've got a Rubicon with 37s and a 2.5" Clayton lift, I don't even know what I gained, I forgot to measure. My 4.10s spin the tires okay with the 2.0 non-etorque. I still want to go to 4.88s though.

As far as your tire choice with the Patagonias, my understanding is Milestar paid/gave a bunch of these to "influencers" and then people went out and bought them because they love the Kardashians so much and whatever someone on the internet says they do. Then, they found out the tires sucked on road and weren't all that great off-road either. This is just the opinion I've formed from reading and watching videos on the Internet. I won't buy them.

I know locals who really like the Maxxis tires, I've never tried them but they're a budget option. I loved my KO2s, it's possible you could get some XR takeoffs. I wanted Mickey Thompson Baja ATs but landed on Wildpeak AT3W ATs because they had better value, I paid $388/tire last Thanksgiving. I like them so far even though I only have 1000 miles on them and zero wheeling. This weekend will be my first weekend out with the new lift and wheels!

 

[Ten North Prez]

I have the Milestar MT's on mine and I like them a lot so far. I only have 4K on them. Lower road noise then any other MT I have ever run. We'll see how they hold up. They ARE NOT great in snow. I don't mind because I am pretty confident in those conditions but considering where you live you should at least factor that into your decision.
As others have said, I'd stay clear of 37's with your gearing. I have the 3.6 with 4.88's and 35's and think 37's would be perfect, but with that gearing I think you'll regret going that big.

 

[blnewt]

I had Milestar Pats for about 30k miles, these were 295/70/17 E-rated. They were good tires for the price I paid, got them for about 1/2 of what they go for now ($124 per tire back in late 2018). The Pats do well in dry rocky trail duty, they are poor in wet and really poor when it gets cold. I wouldn't get them again for that reason (and for the current pricing there are much better options). They do pretty well as far as wear, and road noise in my case, maybe due to the E-rated as I've heard others are getting quicker wear.

I just realized Milestar has a new version of the Patagonia the "MT02" so maybe the wet/cold issues have been addressed, if so, that would change from a nope to a possibility

I also have the 3.45 gears, I replaced the Pats w/ Mickey Thompson Baja ATZs in 315/70/17 D-rated (I got them when they were being discontinued, and stored them in my shed for 18 months). The new tires are much, much better than the Pats in every regard! Since I was running 295s, the 315s weren't too much different in noticeable acceleration. I haven't had a problem getting around quickly and having a 2door surely helps. I have noticed my braking is lacking w/ the larger tires, I will be upgrading my pads to Hawk LTS pads soon, and should help w/ bite and overall braking performance.

I surely wouldn't run anything larger than a 315/70 (or a smaller 35) w/ the stock 3.45 gears. And I will be swapping to a Rubicon transfer case in the future, that's where the 3.45 gears really aren't great as the 2.7:1 lo w/ 3.45 gears puts you in spots that you have to give a lot of gas rather than being able to properly navigate tough spots. With a Rubicon 4:1 "true" Lo range those 3.45s are much closer in crawl ratio to a Rubicon w/ 4.10 gearing. The price to swap that T-case is about half what you pay to regear too, and it's something I can DIY

 

[HARRINGT0N]

Are you going to be mostly on road or will you off-roading the Jeep a lot?

Honestly it's mostly highway driving, only easy offroading.

 

[HARRINGT0N]

I have the 3.6 on the 3.45 gearing with an AEV lift that netted me about 4" as well. I would not go above a 35" tire with mine without a regear. I lost 8th above 72mph as is and if you wheel at all the gears wont hold up with 37"s. Depending on what axles you have that could be a problem as well. I have the M220 rear and M186 front. 37"s are a big ask for the M186 when wheeling.

I have the same axles as you

 

[HARRINGT0N]

I have the Milestar MT's on mine and I like them a lot so far. I only have 4K on them. Lower road noise then any other MT I have ever run. We'll see how they hold up. They ARE NOT great in snow. I don't mind because I am pretty confident in those conditions but considering where you live you should at least factor that into your decision.
As others have said, I'd stay clear of 37's with your gearing. I have the 3.6 with 4.88's and 35's and think 37's would be perfect, but with that gearing I think you'll regret going that big.

I do live in a cold climate and snow/ ice usefulness is a big consideration for me

 

[Ten North Prez]

I do live in a cold climate and snow/ ice usefulness is a big consideration for me

Depends on your abilities. I know people here that have dealt with snow their entire lives and should never set foot inside a car if there is a dusting. I know guys that take a rear wheel drive sportscar out in 6" and have no concern. I would suggest being closer to the later than the former with these tires. It isn't horrendous by any means, but there is definitely a notable difference between these and a 3-peak AT tire

 

[HARRINGT0N]

Depends on your abilities. I know people here that have dealt with snow their entire lives and should never set foot inside a car if there is a dusting. I know guys that take a rear wheel drive sportscar out in 6" and have no concern. I would suggest being closer to the later than the former with these tires. It isn't horrendous by any means, but there is definitely a notable difference between these and a 3-peak AT tire

Yeah, I'm kindof an old fogey and have been driving many miles in the snow for many years. I don't doubt my ability to drive in icy conditions. That said, I would rather have something better rather than worse under foot, and I have never owned snow specific tires in my life and don't plan on getting any anytime soon.

 

[blnewt]

Yeah, I'm kindof an old fogey and have been driving many miles in the snow for many years. I don't doubt my ability to drive in icy conditions. That said, I would rather have something better rather than worse under foot, and I have never owned snow specific tires in my life and don't plan on getting any anytime soon.

The thing about the 3 peak snow rated is they typically have compounds that are more pliable in freezing temps and have improved siping. Most non-snow rated tires get real hard when cold and much more prone to slip rather than grip. Where I live in New Mexico it's not too bad regarding the cold, but when it does get down in freezing temps it's nice to know your tires are up for the task. I've had plenty of winter driving experience growing up in Colorado so I can usually navigate ok when it gets sketchy, but having tires that are more willing to cooperate checks one thing off the list that time of year And yeah, I'm an old fogey too

 

[Shibadog]

For mild off road and snow get an AT with the 3 peak rating. You’ll not be sorry. Also avoid “E” rated tires like the plaque, they’re heavier and the ride goes downhill pretty quick in my experience.

 

[stino]

Get some C-rated 35" KO2s, light and a tiny bit undersized

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