Help with build...dealer says I must have LSD???

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Apparently lsd is required for manual. Does include Dana 44 and AT tires (Bridgestone, I believe.) Price increase is $590 MSRP. Ironically it’s still considered an “option”, but required for manual.

Is this for Sport, Sport S and Saraha?

Why would jeep make the manual tranny standard equipment at a certain MSRP price point, then force you to add a $595 option?

This is moronic at best.

Is this some kind of recent development by Jeep engineers?
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Ordering Updates:
JL Wrangler Sport/Sahara - DEM Manual Transmission requires the DSA axle until further notice.
 

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I have been told the same thing, and I was wondering if someone had a notice of the requirement. As some dealers say I need it, some don't. If it is required thats a little scary. If it's a recall? Why isn't it being addressed?
 

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Any new information on this?

Does the manual transmission require $595 LSD Option now?

Anyone know why?
 

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;) I must admit, the thought did cross my mind that your dealer might be a "dealer" of a different sort, selling Lysergic acid diethylamide (i.e. the other LSD), or that you were taking this psychedelic drug given some extremely unusual configuration request for your new rig.

Fortunately, limited slip differential is the better "Family Feud" answer on a Wrangler board.
 

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I really would like to just see more technical information from the manufacturer regarding this matter. While I believe the sales individual, I'd like to verify (trust but verify..). I really would never complain about the D44.

I do believe I found out where the issue lies. That is, in the configuration, if you select All-Season it does not require the LSD (D44/DSA). If you select All-Terrain, it forces you to choose both DSA (D44/LSD) and the upgraded polished metal rims. I'm really lost.

To people's knowledge, can you have All-Terrain tires of any variety on a D35 (ish, if thats what we're calling the stock axle) ?
 

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I really would like to just see more technical information from the manufacturer regarding this matter. While I believe the sales individual, I'd like to verify (trust but verify..). I really would never complain about the D44.

I do believe I found out where the issue lies. That is, in the configuration, if you select All-Season it does not require the LSD (D44/DSA). If you select All-Terrain, it forces you to choose both DSA (D44/LSD) and the upgraded polished metal rims. I'm really lost.

To people's knowledge, can you have All-Terrain tires of any variety on a D35 (ish, if thats what we're calling the stock axle) ?
You've got it backwards. The tires come with the LSD or the upgraded wheels. Not the other way around.

Look at post #17. From a dealer guy who is quoting from the factory. None knows why. That's the whole story.
 

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You've got it backwards. The tires come with the LSD or the upgraded wheels. Not the other way around.

Look at post #17. From a dealer guy who is quoting from the factory. None knows why. That's the whole story.
Thank you, still confused thou, would like further info from the Manufac.
 

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If you order LSA, then all-terrains follow. But why must we upgrade the wheels? I don’t expect an answer, simply voicing concern over .com not meshing w “order computer”. Roughly $800 for unneeded wheels is a kick in the junk.
 

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If you order LSA, then all-terrains follow. But why must we upgrade the wheels? I don’t expect an answer, simply voicing concern over .com not meshing w “order computer”. Roughly $800 for unneeded wheels is a kick in the junk.
Even if the wheels are a web-site glitch. I wish the site was more transparent as to what the issue is. In the end a D44 is a nice thing to have, with that being said, what's wrong with the other one?
 

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Even if the wheels are a web-site glitch. I wish the site was more transparent as to what the issue is. In the end a D44 is a nice thing to have, with that being said, what's wrong with the other one?
From what I have read here, nothing. Most say can come in handy in slick situations. Some may figure “overkill” if not a rock climber. I may do a lil off road but no climbing. Mostly driving around O’ahu.
 

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Even if the wheels are a web-site glitch. I wish the site was more transparent as to what the issue is. In the end a D44 is a nice thing to have, with that being said, what's wrong with the other one?
And why is it required with the manual tranny and not the auto?
That's my biggest question here. Is it due to the axle housing or the open diff that is not compatible with the manual tranny?
 

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;) I must admit, the thought did cross my mind that your dealer might be a "dealer" of a different sort, selling Lysergic acid diethylamide (i.e. the other LSD), or that you were taking this psychedelic drug given some extremely unusual configuration request for your new rig.

Fortunately, limited slip differential is the better "Family Feud" answer on a Wrangler board.
The "other" LSD would result in the limited TRIP differential.

 

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If you order LSA, then all-terrains follow. But why must we upgrade the wheels? I don’t expect an answer, simply voicing concern over .com not meshing w “order computer”. Roughly $800 for unneeded wheels is a kick in the junk.
Think it was forum member ThirtyOne told me the requirement to purchase the alternate wheels when selecting the LSD uprated rear axle is a Jeep website mistake. He said you can just purchase the axle without the wheels.

As to why the Jeep would make the LSD uprated axle a requirement when purchasing the manual transmission - just guessing but here are some possible reasons:

1) Manual trans can result in more shock load to the axle compared to an auto trans, hence Jeep wanting a stronger rear axle to handle the load.
2) Something to do with driveshaft angle or length makes the uprated rear axle a better choice with the manual trans.
3) Jeep wants to make some extra cash (not unheard of when manufacturers bundle or require additional items when one item is selected).

For my part, I'm glad Jeep offers the uprated rear axle since I go off-road and would like the extra strength.
 
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