Help! Snapped my axle on my 2022 JLUR Xtreme Recon and I need advice!

[Chance_P]

Sell me your cast iron knuckles. Im close enough to pick up. Sorry about your jeep.

Someone had to do it.

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[Herson]

2 feet of air (allegedly) in a solid axle at speed is extreme. Moreso in an XR with the 8 foot bumpstops. It's physics. It came down with like 5k of weight on that stock strut and spring while the bumpstop was pushing in the opposite direction. Add in the FAD location as well.

Jeep meant for us to take our time over obstacles and enjoy nature. They brought out the Mojave JT for Ferris Bueller's Day Off style hooning.

Key point here that I 100 agree… 8 foot long bump stops and 1” of up travel.

 

[Abramovich]

No he got Jeeped. Unfortunately this just shows that axles break just as tie rods break. It happens. 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other. Stuff breaks.

But It really sucks that they red flagged his VIN for doing something he thought his vehicle was made for. That's the part that bothers me.

I know one thing a little snaped tie rod is way easier (less expensive) to fix then a broken axle. It's pretty sad that you can buy a stock vehicle like an Xtreme Recon package Wrangler that Jeep shows ripping through sand dunes and off roading in commercials but the second you go out and do the same and you break something "warranty denied" I guess in reality they really do expect us just to Mall crawl with these. Lol.

Doing the same? I don’t think they hit a 2-3’ bump while going 20 mph in that commercial. Haha.

 

[John VonJeep]

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. True for racing and true for Jeeping.

 

[CarbonSteel]

@lott007Echoing comments here. Take the insurance money and consider it a great opportunity to upgrade the axle. While many here are advocating D60s, you might instead want to consider getting a Jeep Performance part replacement axle. It is a more substantial axle (has FAD delete and bigger end forgings) but is WAAAYYYY cheaper than any D60 you will find on the market, won't have to replace your wheels and bolts right into your Jeep since it is a Jeep product.

Just make sure they have rotated the mounts to compensate for the caster/pinion contention issues or there will be a vibration that will make you come to hate your Jeep.

 

[TaiMc]

I was thinking the same thing. But it still would be good for engine and transmission issues..?

For engine/transmission…yes it would. Just keep excellent maintenance records and have the jeep maintained via the recommended schedule.

 

[JeepViking13]

Not less expensive when it is a thousand times easier to break a Bronco tie rod than an Jeep axle.

"A thousand times easier" How many times have you personally broken your Broncos tie rod?

Also what if a person's off road preference is hooning around sand dunes and going fast over humps? Then I guess it would get really freaking expensive and a thousand times easier to break a Wrangler?

Off Roading just isn't Rock Crawling.

IMO if they make these vehicles for Off-roading the companies should back it up in the warranty. That's literally what they Market them as when they advertise and sell them.

 

[JeepViking13]

Doing the same? I don’t think they hit a 2-3’ bump while going 20 mph in that commercial. Haha.

I'm sure they didn't. But if you're off roading in the dunes and driving around just like they are in the commercial how do you know what's on the other side of a dune or hump? Shit can happen fast.

 

[guarnibl]

2,800 miles and 2 months on my beautiful black JLUR and I snapped my axle while in the sand dunes. Here's my questions. Any advice you can give me is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
1 - My insurance is covering it, but I'm trying to get Jeep to cover this under the warranty. So far, the service manager is telling me no, it's not covered. But I wasn't going over 20 mph in the sand and hit a bump that was 2 - 3 feet high. Not axle breaking in my opinion, but here I am with a broken axle. I've been told that I can request that a Chrysler rep come look at it, but that if I do they will still deny it and they will red-flag my VIN so that any future warranty requests will be denied. Hearing that really pissed me off. What the f*ck do I have a warranty for if they won't fix anything? Does anybody else have experience with their warranty getting red-flagged? I've read over the warranty and it has these 2 exclusions that are vague.
• Abuse or negligence
• Misuse, for example, driving over curbs or overloading
In my opinion, a Jeep Wrangler with stock 35" tires and a 2.5" lift is meant for off-roading, therefore, this wouldn't be considered misuse or abuse. What do you guys think?
2 - I've read through the owner's manual and it mentions an Event Data Recorder (EDR). What do you guys know about this? Will it tell me exactly how fast I was going when my axle snapped? Because that would be handy information when talking to Jeep about this.
3 - Is the front axle breaking on a 2022 JL a common occurrence? Is this a defective part?
4 - What is a more sturdy replacement part for the front axle? I'd rather not have this happen to me again and if I can spend a few extra bucks on an axle that won't break then I'd rather do that.

Man that sucks, but yeah... absolutely not warranty To be honest, if what you hit was hard enough to break a front 44, it may have broken a 60 as well.

Regarding the red flag thing -- I'd imagine if they have a Chrysler rep come in to the dealership and explain what happened (and they saw the damage) they'd probably consider it abuse and thus red flag (i.e., what else has been damaged at this point that hasn't broken yet).

 

[bjm00se]

Just make sure they have rotated the mounts to compensate for the caster/pinion contention issues or there will be a vibration that will make you come to hate your Jeep.

True this. FAD delete leads to front-driveshaft always rotating, which can create driveline vibe issues that can be a pain to diagnose and solve.

Nothing is free and pretty much every modification leads to a rabbit hole of possible unintended consequences.

 

[bjm00se]

I'm sure they didn't. But if you're off roading in the dunes and driving around just like they are in the commercial how do you know what's on the other side of a dune or hump? Shit can happen fast.

I'm guessing you missed the fine-print-disclaimer on all those ads: "Professional driver. Closed course."

In any situation, either pre-run the course so you already know what's there, or approach it at limited speed in anticipation of what might or might not be on the other side of a blind obstacle. To do otherwise is to invite the consequences.

EDIT - and let me be clear - it's totally fine with *me* if you *don't* do that. The Internet was created off of porn and "Just Send It" videos. Just don't be surprised when if you show up at the dealer and they deny your warranty claim.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

True this. FAD delete leads to front-driveshaft always rotating, which can create driveline vibe issues that can be a pain to diagnose and solve.

Nothing is free and pretty much every modification leads to a rabbit hole of possible unintended consequences.

If someone goes to the trouble of doing D60s, then maual locking hubs would be the way to go in my opinion.

@lott007

Echoing comments here. Take the insurance money and consider it a great opportunity to upgrade the axle. While many here are advocating D60s, you might instead want to consider getting a Jeep Performance part replacement axle. It is a more substantial axle (has FAD delete and bigger end forgings) but is WAAAYYYY cheaper than any D60 you will find on the market, won't have to replace your wheels and bolts right into your Jeep since it is a Jeep product.

You might also use it as an opportunity to regear your rear since you can get the JPP axles with whatever ratio you want.

Consider this broken axle a gift.

^^ This is the best solution in my opinion.

 

[Dyolfknip74]

Key point here that I 100 agree… 8 foot long bump stops and 1” of up travel.

Without a doubt. Know what happens to a violently compressed bumpstop? It becomes a cantilever. Something had to give.

 

[Chance_P]

I'm sure they didn't. But if you're off roading in the dunes and driving around just like they are in the commercial how do you know what's on the other side of a dune or hump? Shit can happen fast.

All off roading isnt rock crawling, which is why Jeep has a package called the mojave which is made for desert fun. The rubicon trim is made for rock crawling.

Neither is designed to leave be launched through the air no matter how you spin it, and I dont think a single Jeep employee would say that they are.

 

[TheDogPack]

Seriously consider what it will do to your insurance rates. Your rate may go up by $500 or more for next few years. I am not saying it will go up, but it may.

I would pay out of pocket and go to an offroad shop and upgrade the axle.

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