Have an EcoDiesel JL Sahara for the week...some observations.

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I don’t find the buffeting bad but you get some crazy vortex back there if your roofs open and doors are off. Anything light can blow right out on the highway.
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Diesel prices are closer to gasoline prices in some states.

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yeah i see that. but fuel prices around my area are crasy. for example i fill up with 87 for $1.98. ( thats been the lowest ever since the cv19) go 1 mile and its 2.15 to 2.39/49. i havent checked what diesel is but the last one was at $3.29. so for me its not worth it.
 

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I love that we all have a choice of engines again. All have their strong points.
I've also had many Jeeps in the past. My first vehicle I owned just out of high school (1980)was a 1963 Willys CJ-5 with a Buick V-8. Ever since, I have missed that power on demand.
No Jeep has done that again. Now comes the diesel. Then comes Sarge Green.
Had to have it and I love it. This thing is so much more fun than ALL my new Jeeps I've had.

I am again a HappyJeeper!

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I think a diesel is something you either want or you don’t. Personally, I don’t try to justify that decision based on fuel savings or whether reliability has already been proven or not.

I wanted one since 2014 after buying a Ram 1500 Ecodiesel. I became hooked on the power delivery and how relaxed the towing experience became.

Granted, I only have about 60K miles on the Ram, but have not had problems with it like some other’s have had. And that’s the old gen2. I expect the gen3 to have “fixed” those problems the gen2 are reported to have.

In my opinion, both these diesels are a pleasure to drive. We have the 3.6 in a 2018 JK, Recon, and that works fine too. But it’s mpg kind of sucks. And you need more rpm of course, to make things happen. That one all stock, averages during summer months, about 18mpg. Thus far (only have 1300 miles on it), the diesel JL w/35” is averaging 25-26 for same use. As a percentage, that’s a big difference, especially considering the tire and ride height differences.
 

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I love that we all have a choice of engines again. All have their strong points.
I've also had many Jeeps in the past. My first vehicle I owned just out of high school (1980)was a 1963 Willys CJ-5 with a Buick V-8. Ever since, I have missed that power on demand.
No Jeep has done that again. Now comes the diesel. Then comes Sarge Green.
Had to have it and I love it. This thing is so much more fun than ALL my new Jeeps I've had.

I am again a HappyJeeper!

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Is that a 3.0L in Sarge Green? Looks awesome.
 

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Ok I am just trying to stop the Turbo fuel is more expensive fallacy. This forum is full of Turbo haters that spread false rumors (politician style) about the turbo presenting them as fact. It is as bad/ silly as the Anti-Vaxers that still quote that false report that tried to tie vaccines to Autism.

People don't buy the diesel for just the economy it is for the torque AND mileage.
Hey think about all the money you'll save on not having to re-gear for big-ass tires.
 

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I love that we all have a choice of engines again. All have their strong points.
I've also had many Jeeps in the past. My first vehicle I owned just out of high school (1980)was a 1963 Willys CJ-5 with a Buick V-8. Ever since, I have missed that power on demand.
No Jeep has done that again. Now comes the diesel. Then comes Sarge Green.
Had to have it and I love it. This thing is so much more fun than ALL my new Jeeps I've had.

I am again a HappyJeeper!

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So do you attribute all the happiness to the diesel or just the new Jeep? Did you have the 3.6V6 before this one?

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I love that we all have a choice of engines again. All have their strong points.
I've also had many Jeeps in the past. My first vehicle I owned just out of high school (1980)was a 1963 Willys CJ-5 with a Buick V-8. Ever since, I have missed that power on demand.
No Jeep has done that again. Now comes the diesel. Then comes Sarge Green.
Had to have it and I love it. This thing is so much more fun than ALL my new Jeeps I've had.

I am again a HappyJeeper!

IMG_1312.jpeg
Great lookin’ Jeep, Eric! My first Jeep was also a CJ-5 with a Buick V8 (and a whole lotta other custom stuff). I still kinda miss that one, but these JLs (regardless of the engine/trans you choose) are great machines!
 

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So do you attribute all the happiness to the diesel or just the new Jeep? Did you have the 3.6V6 before this one?

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The new Jeep is always good! I have always missed the power of my first Jeep.
The old V-8 would light up the tires starting in second gear. This diesel seems to try to spin tires just a bit faster than you are going....if that makes sense. It pulls your head back when you step on it!

And I did have the 3.6 (and the 3.8). Loved the 3.6 much better than the 3.8. Love the 3.0 much better than the 3.6. And this is my first automatic. Always had a clutch.
 

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The new Jeep is always good! I have always missed the power of my first Jeep.
The old V-8 would light up the tires starting in second gear. This diesel seems to try to spin tires just a bit faster than you are going....if that makes sense. It pulls your head back when you step on it!

And I did have the 3.6 (and the 3.8). Loved the 3.6 much better than the 3.8. Love the 3.0 much better than the 3.6. And this is my first automatic. Always had a clutch.
really, I’m toying with the idea of an auto as well. I’ve always had manuals. I feel kinda bad getting an auto ...like I’m betraying the car gods. Lol. Do you miss the manual?

3.6 has a great warranty and the diesel not so much. Is this a concern for you? I’d love the diesel. Everyone who has it usually has said they have no regrets but having expensive Range Rover repairs I don’t wanna wind up with expensive diesel repairs either. I ask because there’s all this stuff in the Ram forums and all, and how the EGR clogs up, Im just finding it hard to get a clear unbiased opinion on the motor!

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really, I’m toying with the idea of an auto as well. I’ve always had manuals. I feel kinda bad getting an auto ...like I’m betraying the car gods. Lol. Do you miss the manual?

3.6 has a great warranty and the diesel not so much. Is this a concern for you? I’d love the diesel. Everyone who has it usually has said they have no regrets but having expensive Range Rover repairs I don’t wanna wind up with expensive diesel repairs either. I ask because there’s all this stuff in the Ram forums and all, and how the EGR clogs up, Im just finding it hard to get a clear unbiased opinion on the motor!

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I'm not too concerned with longevity with this. I have a company truck that I drive to and for work, so the Jeep sits in the garage until I can take it out.
My '13 JKUR I sold in 2019 had 15'000 miles on it.
I am not missing the manual yet.
 

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In my area this doesn’t happen often. But while out for a motorcycle ride today, found these fuel prices in Plainview, MN.

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Diesel is still cheaper than 87 in the GTA I’ve not seen that for at least a decade.
 

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The only real reason for diesel is for towing, IMHO.
 

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