Scott, I talked to a guy named "CJ" at Earnhardts in Gilbert. He seemed like a no BS type guy. He talked like 5% below was no problem. I didn't mention TL/AR. I was planning on talking with him when I'm ready to buy. If you do try and deal with him, let me know how it goes. But now I may as well wait for the 2020 models since I hear they are only a few months away.Earnhardt is one of the few dealers that I haven't yet approached. Criswell will do 8% below and Ourisman 8.25%, both with TL/AR. I wonder if I can get Earnhardt to 6% with TL/AR. That would give me enough incentive not to deal with shipping.