Hard top wind noise

[Dynomite1371]

LizardSkin perchance?

https://www.lizardskin.com/sound-control-insulation.html

Bed liner with Kevlar would probably do the same thing.

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[Jeepsterfreak]

I spent about 20 minutes adjusting windshield hinges and freedom top middle latches. Big improvement, very tolerable now.
You just have to be careful and not adjust latches too tight, this will defeat the purpose. I adjusted my latches down just a tiny bit, the windshield has to be laid down and then you can adjust the higes in just a little bit. Very well worth 20 minutes time.
This is a QC and not a design issue.

I understand how to lower the windshield, but how do you go about adjusting the hinges? Are the hinges bolted to the body/frame with slotted holes that allow for adjustment?

When you said you adjusted the hinge in a little bit do you mean you physically moved the hinges more rearward toward the dash?

I was hoping this new windshield design would be foolproof without any adjustment required during assembly. If the hinges are indeed adjustable to the point it affects the seal this could allow water to enter behind the dash if not adjusted properly. I hope this is not the case.

 

[James]

LizardSkin perchance?

https://www.lizardskin.com/sound-control-insulation.html

My bad, the name is second skin,

 

[James]

Bed liner with Kevlar would probably do the same thing.

My bad it is called second skin that I used

 

[captainjack]

Please let me know what they say as my dealer cannot figure it out. My JK was so much quieter. I am going to drop it again this week.

I spent about 20 minutes adjusting windshield hinges and freedom top middle latches. Big improvement, very tolerable now.
You just have to be careful and not adjust latches too tight, this will defeat the purpose. I adjusted my latches down just a tiny bit, the windshield has to be laid down and then you can adjust the higes in just a little bit. Very well worth 20 minutes time.
This is a QC and not a design issue.

Can you outline in detail what you did for those of us not as mechanically inclined? I would love to fix mine myself as the dealer wanted to put Vaseline or WD40 on the seals to fix it..... They were stumped by the noise issue

 

[jericbarg]

Can you outline in detail what you did for those of us not as mechanically inclined? I would love to fix mine myself as the dealer wanted to put Vaseline or WD40 on the seals to fix it..... They were stumped by the noise issue

It's kinda self explainatory, but look at the middle latches on the freedom tops (mirror area) , the clip they latch to can be adjusted down (slotted)with a Torx screwdriver. The trim panel "pop"s down for easy access. A little movement goes a LONG way.

The windshield hinges are accessed by folding windshield down and loosening the Torx bolts on the windshield side of hinge very slightly. Then move windshield frame up very a tiny bit and tighten bolts. This actually moves the w/shield frame closer to body/seals, just don't over do it. You should feel very slight resistance just as windshield folds back up tight to body. It may take a few times to get the resistance but all it takes it slight contact to seal on the frame.
The freedom top seals are very good quality but cooler weather does make them not very resilent or pliable.

Never put anything petroleum based on rubber. They are plenty of rubber safe products out there, some silicone sparays are safe.

 

[captainjack]

Can you outline in detail what you did for those of us not as mechanically inclined? I would love to fix mine myself as the dealer wanted to put Vaseline or WD40 on the seals to fix it..... They were stumped by the noise issue

It's kinda self explainatory, but look at the middle latches on the freedom tops (mirror area) , the clip they latch to can be adjusted down (slotted)with a Torx screwdriver. The trim panel "pop"s down for easy access. A little movement goes a LONG way.

The windshield hinges are accessed by folding windshield down and loosening the Torx bolts on the windshield side of hinge very slightly. Then move windshield frame up very a tiny bit and tighten bolts. This actually moves the w/shield frame closer to body/seals, just don't over do it. You should feel very slight resistance just as windshield folds back up tight to body. It may take a few times to get the resistance but all it takes it slight contact to seal on the frame.
The freedom top seals are very good quality but cooler weather does make them not very resilent or pliable.

Never put anything petroleum based on rubber. They are plenty of rubber safe products out there, some silicone sparays are safe.

Thank you very much. I will try this myself. Much appreciated. I drove several at the dealership and all but one had the problem and it was only on one side of one freedom panel so I knew there had to be a fix! I will endeavor to do this once we get a little warmer temps here. I also knew about not putting petroleum based products on the rubber so was wary of allowing the dealership to fix. Thanks again!

 

[Harleydz]

True.

The way the windshield frame is made, you can have a leak at the top and feel the "wind" at the lower corners

Should not be acceptable on a 55 to 60k vehicle. On or off road type

 

[COBill]

Just turn up the radio? Uh, yeah.

If you put a police siren in the back of your Jeep you won't hear wind noise (or much of anything else ever again) in your vehicle either, but that's rather not the point.

Listen to the wind noise inside a $50K+ convertible car sometime, I suspect it's virtually non-existent.

 

[Quigley]

Should not be acceptable on a 55 to 60k vehicle. On or off road type

I agree 100%. I can't believe that folks feel that it is acceptable to pay 40 to 50 k for a new vehicle just to be required to fix assembly issues themselves. Boggles the mind that FCA is okay with selling a product with know defects that they themselves can correct before it hits the market. Come on folks. Demand the dealer and FCA fix this issue before we issue them a check for 50 k. Come on folks. Vote with your wallet.

 

[jericbarg]

I agree 100%. I can't believe that folks feel that it is acceptable to pay 40 to 50 k for a new vehicle just to be required to fix assembly issues themselves. Boggles the mind that FCA is okay with selling a product with know defects that they themselves can correct before it hits the market. Come on folks. Demand the dealer and FCA fix this issue before we issue them a check for 50 k. Come on folks. Vote with your wallet.

You have to keep in mind this is a production vehicle made by a cost cutting car company. These issues are small and I do not trust anyone to repair anything I own. I spent 45 minutes on a $125000 Viper to get the doors aligned perfect. No way in hell would I trust an idiot at the dealer. Plus it would take longer dealing with the dealer back and forth than to fix it myself. My time is to valuable to deal with that BS.
I also have a 14 y/o Son that I’m teaching to be independent and it’s working out very well
He installed my bumper and winch today all by himself, something most adult males wouldn’t attempt.

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

You have to keep in mind this is a production vehicle made by a cost cutting car company. These issues are small and I do not trust anyone to repair anything I own. I spent 45 minutes on a $125000 Viper to get the doors aligned perfect. No way in hell would I trust an idiot at the dealer. Plus it would take longer dealing with the dealer back and forth than to fix it myself. My time is to valuable to deal with that BS.
I also have a 14 y/o Son that I’m teaching to be independent and it’s working out very well
He installed my bumper and winch today all by himself, something most adult males wouldn’t attempt.

I understand what you are saying. I’m the same way.

It would be nice if Jeep had engineered safeguards into the windshield design to allow for perfect alignment by the factory.

 

[jericbarg]

I understand what you are saying. I’m the same way.

It would be nice if Jeep had engineered safeguards into the windshield design for perfect alignment by the factory.

They did design some guides/safeguards, the biggest issue is JEEP pays for a predelivery inspection that should have caught these issues. The problem should have been corrected at the dealer except all the technician did was install the antenna and a fuse, then shot it over to the wash rack without a proper test drive.

Also, it only takes a very small adjustment to go from poor sealing to properly sealed.

 

[Dynomite1371]

I'm not sure everyone thinks mistakes are acceptable, but with all the varying input here, who knows what the actual problem is. Having owned a Jeep, I feel I would know if something was wrong. If I had a hardtop seal issue where wind was rushing in I think I would know it. For that matter in any car! But when it's described 50 different ways in the forum, from someone who thinks "wind noise" is a problem.... I'm just not convinced that what ever it is, that is a "design flaw", which would affect all of us. And that just doesn't seem the case right now. That's not to say, for those of us who think they have a problem not to voice concerns but telling everyone to be angry, because it cost 50k, is not productive either. I've had many issues with vehicles. (not new models either). And the dealer attempted to slow roll me, but one has to stay persistent until the issue is diagnosed and fixed. Desparsging the company to whom you just bought /buying a vehicle from is oximoronic, especially until we know if the issue is isolated or not. I hope no one ever had an issue, but that's not realistic either. I recently had a little blip, I didn't panic. I didn't and won't post it until I feel it's reoccurring and or necessary. But I know that if I do have an issue, I will drive them nutz until it's resolved.

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

Well hopefully JEEP has some of their engineers reading this forum or will get enough dealer/buyer complaints with warranty claims to address the problem on the assembly line.

I imagine if air can get past the seal then water can follow.

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