Forbes 37 worst cars, Jeep on the list 5 or 6 times

[Chocolate Thunder]

"limited passenger comfort, harsh and erratic ride and handling abilities and excessive wind noise at higher speeds." It's 100% subjective BS. Ok, maybe 80%, can't argue with the financial data and test results.

All of this has some subjectivity. However the upright seating position and lack of seat adjustability that even the most basic cars today have isn’t arguable. No lumbar support. No adjustable leg support. No lateral support, no power seat adjustment, no memory seats. I could go on but it’s not necessary, you get the point. Harsh, erratic ride? Check. Solid axles and tall sidewalls (and a suspension lift for many of us). Need I say more? Handling? Wind noise? Do I even need to address those? Not to anyone who’s driven literally ANY other vehicle.

My point isn’t that the Jeep is bad in and of itself. It’s that it’s downright horrible given the criteria that they’re are judging by. Comfort, road performance, build quality. That’s not what my Jeep is for to me.

But the Jeep is the undisputed king of the things it does best. Ability to go anywhere and ability to drop the top. It’s being judged against “regular” automobiles. It’ll always lose that battle. But hopefully few if any of is here bought it to be like our other vehicles. Because it’s just not.

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[multicam]

If everyone listened to Consumer Reports we’d all be driving Corollas. CR is a recipe for boring.

 

[TJ2018]

Not sure if this is referring to the same article, but a similar thread ran last year.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/forbes-cars-to-avoid-2018.8474/

Face it... Forbes just doesn't like the Wrangler. And given the choice I'd read Motor Trend over Forbes 8 days of the week!

 

[brazos]

Wait!
You’re telling me that some vehicles ride and handle better on the road than my JLU?
No way. Not buying.
Next you’ll be trying to convince me that bears shit in the woods...or that pigs don’t fly.

 

[Dvol]

Consumer reports hahahahaha!! Jd power rates are based on how much they get paid. If Wranglers are so bad why do they sell 20k + every 4 weeks? Have resale values only the 4Runner can touch? My 12 JKU lost 3k in value in 4 years I owned it and never broke down...Guess that’s a fluke

Both sources are like most media Bias as hell.. They also rated my 09 Honda Pilot as reliable haha it drank 1 1/2 quarts of oil a week..Needed a motor before 50k, and had electrical gremlins. Also left my wife stranded because of battery drained due to bad switch. Haven’t had another Honda since..
They are all man made and have faults.. I buy what I like not what others tell me to like..Those 2 sources are the worst imo!! My Wrangler looks and drives awesome imo..

 

[Crusifix]

Wranglers are what they are, and that is why we love them. If they conformed any more than what they already have to what these writers say, then they simply would not be nearly as capable as they are.

 

[Carbonalpine]

The people this article pertains to are typically people that have come from a different type of vehicle all together. These JL's will not ride comparable or better than a Mercedes or Lexus. Lots of soccer moms want to look cool picking their kids up from school, but soon realize their Odysee was a more comfortable choice. Those of us that have had Wranglers, this JL regardless of steering issues, is a step up in comfort.

 

[brazos]

All of this has some subjectivity. However the upright seating position and lack of seat adjustability that even the most basic cars today have isn’t arguable. No lumbar support. No adjustable leg support. No lateral support, no power seat adjustment, no memory seats. I could go on but it’s not necessary, you get the point. Harsh, erratic ride? Check. Solid axles and tall sidewalls (and a suspension lift for many of us). Need I say more? Handling? Wind noise? Do I even need to address those? Not to anyone who’s driven literally ANY other vehicle.

My point isn’t that the Jeep is bad in and of itself. It’s that it’s downright horrible given the criteria that they’re are judging by. Comfort, road performance, build quality. That’s not what my Jeep is for to me.

But the Jeep is the undisputed king of the things it does best. Ability to go anywhere and ability to drop the top. It’s being judged against “regular” automobiles. It’ll always lose that battle. But hopefully few if any of is here bought it to be like our other vehicles. Because it’s just not.

Thanks, Captain Obvious, for schooling us up.
We’re so dim, but you bring blessed light into our meager lives.

 

[Carbonalpine]

I swear, I honestly feel bad for the car shopper that bases their buying decisions on reports and depreciations. Life is short, buy what excites you

 

[srt20]

In 2003, every rag proclaimed the 03 Ford 6.0 diesel as the best diesel engine in a pickup.

How'd that work out??

Rags are just like internet forums and FB. You have to weed out the bullshit and garbage.

 

[dsgrey]

Harsh ride is one of the reasons? Bahahaha...it's a 4-wheel drive! If they want a harsh ride we'll go back to some of the 70's lifted Chevy trucks that would give you a headache just driving around the block. JL is actually smooth with beefy tires.

 

[Carbonalpine]

In 2003, every rag proclaimed the 03 Ford 6.0 diesel as the best diesel engine in a pickup.

How'd that work out??

Rags are just like internet forums and FB. You have to weed out the bullshit and garbage.

That's why I thanked god I held onto my 2002 7.3L

 

[Solidaxle]

As with anything the media tells me, I know the opposite is the truth.

 

[Crusifix]

That's why I thanked god I held onto my 2002 7.3L

I had a 2001 7.3 Excursion up until a few years ago. It was an awesome vehicle and did pretty good on mileage too.

 

[8flat]

Harsh ride is one of the reasons? Bahahaha...it's a 4-wheel drive! If they want a harsh ride we'll go back to some of the 70's lifted Chevy trucks that would give you a headache just driving around the block. JL is actually smooth with beefy tires.

This all day.
So many people even on this forum were talking how the Rubi rode worse than the Sahara that even I was questioning whether I should skip the rubicon package, because we live on 9miles of very rough gravel road.

Thank god I didn't listen, this thing rides great. Much better than 3/4 ton pickups, that's for sure. It's all relative.

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