Flush Mount Style LED Tail Lights for Jeep Wrangler JL

[Dave928]

I don't own one of that's what you mean but I have owned similiar devices.

So, let's say you're going in for an oil change. You pull all hardware related to Taser.

Tech starts working and for some reason, without being told (maybe a code popped up) hooks up to the OBD port to check the code. Finds the code and fixes whatever issue. Will he have known there was a Tazer installed?

Another scenario. Randomly decides to update firmware and does it without customer agreement or approval. Will he know there has been a Tazer installed?
After he does the software update he might see some odd stuff depending on what owner was doing with Tazer, of course. But in order for him to prove it, it is going to take some more digging.

What I'm not sure about is if the Tazer leaves anything permanent written on the jeep before or after the unmarry procedure. If it does, and there is any issue related to computer, I can guarantee you that FCA will find it if they're looking.

Now. If Tazer doesn't leave anything, then you're golden.

he isn't looking for a tazer. he doesn't care about the tazer. the problem is if he does a software update, it rewrites the vehicle settings back to the latest version of the stock settings. now you can't unmarry the tazer because it has an older software version than the vehicle and it won't overwrite the newer settings. it's bricked.

techs don't "randomly" do software updates, but they do do them if it fixes an issue that you brought the car in for. lights aren't working correctly? tech in the next bay tells him "oh, there's a software update for that" and he hooks it up and does the flash. he doesn't need you to ok it, you already did when you brought the car in for the issue.

and any GOOD tech will hook up to the scan tool every time a car comes in to check for faults. car computers can have "pending" faults. letting the customer know about an issue before it becomes a real issue helps the customer avoid repeat visits. so now you have a situation where your car needs a software update. so you're gonna tell the service writer "um, i need to take it home first" why? to pull your tazer. which you should have done before you went to the dealer.

also, letting you know about a potential issue and fixing it ahead of time is called an upsell. it's isn't random. that's how techs make their money.

always pull the tazer when going to the dealer. even for an oil change.

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[Dyolfknip74]

he isn't looking for a tazer. he doesn't care about the tazer. the problem is if he does a software update, it rewrites the vehicle settings back to the latest version of the stock settings. now you can't unmarry the tazer because it has an older software version than the vehicle and it won't overwrite the newer settings. it's bricked.

techs don't "randomly" do software updates, but they do do them if it fixes an issue that you brought the car in for. lights aren't working correctly? tech in the next bay tells him "oh, there's a software update for that" and he hooks it up and does the flash. he doesn't need you to ok it, you already did when you brought the car in for the issue.

and any GOOD tech will hook up to the scan tool every time a car comes in to check for faults. car computers can have "pending" faults. letting the customer know about an issue before it becomes a real issue helps the customer avoid repeat visits. so now you have a situation where your car needs a software update. so you're gonna tell the service writer "um, i need to take it home first" why? to pull your tazer. which you should have done before you went to the dealer.

also, letting you know about a potential issue and fixing it ahead of time is called an upsell. it's isn't random. that's how techs make their money.

always pull the tazer when going to the dealer. even for an oil change.

Ahhh, see....the part about it getting bricked if the vehicle gets updated is a key component I didn't know. Makes sense. Thanks

 

[Crusifix]

I just received my tracking number

 

[Mikecoffman911]

I just received my tracking number

Ditto!

 

[ORACLElights]

Hi guys, thanks for your interaction and patience with us. Our team is trying to stay as engaged as possible right now, and it looks like your questions have been answered from my quick scan through the last posts. If we missed yours, my apologies -- please let me know so we can assist.

Wanted to provide a few updates and reminders since a few pages have gone by.

Firstly, we have another batch of 600+ orders of these going out in the next few days. We sent an email on this yesterday to unfulfilled orders. If you ordered on or before January 8th, your order will be included in this batch. You will receive an email with tracking information when your order ships. Please allow 24-48 hours for tracking to update. If you ordered after January 8th, your order will be shipped in a future batch.

Also resharing this waitlist form for our forthcoming non-programmer solution for errors on LED-equipped Jeeps: https://forms.gle/BzUYkNamRzWuybqc9. Our team has many moving parts with this to ensure it will be a simple fix for those of you, and we hope to have an ETA update for this soon. We greatly appreciate your patience.

Please PM, call, or email us if you have any questions in the meantime. We are always here to help.

-Rachel

 

[Dfideth]

When I saw these lights I ordered them. A week ago I was stopped behind a good looking ‘22 dark grey Ford Ranger all tricked out. And the tail lights had that ‘C’ look. Just like these lights and a lot of other vehicles.

Oracle has great products and I will continue to buy them. These lights are definitely very cool. Just not very Jeep.

Cancelled my order.

IMNSHO

Exactly why we are buying them, not oversized and boxey.

 

[ORACLElights]

Hi guys, thanks for your interaction and patience with us. Our team is trying to stay as engaged as possible right now, and it looks like your questions have been answered from my quick scan through the last posts. If we missed yours, my apologies -- please let me know so we can assist.

Wanted to provide a few updates and reminders since a few pages have gone by.

Firstly, we have another batch of 600+ orders of these going out in the next few days. We sent an email on this yesterday to unfulfilled orders. If you ordered on or before January 8th, your order will be included in this batch. You will receive an email with tracking information when your order ships. Please allow 24-48 hours for tracking to update. If you ordered after January 8th, your order will be shipped in a future batch.

Also resharing this waitlist form for our forthcoming non-programmer solution for errors on LED-equipped Jeeps: https://forms.gle/BzUYkNamRzWuybqc9. Our team has many moving parts with this to ensure it will be a simple fix for those of you, and we hope to have an ETA update for this soon. We greatly appreciate your patience.

Please PM, call, or email us if you have any questions in the meantime. We are always here to help.

-Rachel

Follow-up on this...we are very excited that another batch arrived early. This means that all existing orders will be shipped out by the end of next week. If you are still waiting for fulfillment, please be on the lookout for tracking information via email coming soon. I'm dropping the install video below as well. Let us know if you have any questions in the meantime!

-Rachel

 

[Dfideth]

Just got my tracking,
I guess it's time to wash the Jeep for real this time. It rained in southern California last week so I took the jeep out of the garage so mother nature could wash it.
But if I'm going to install new stuff, I may as well use soap.

 

[Mikecoffman911]

Just got my tracking,
I guess it's time to wash the Jeep for real this time. It rained in southern California last week so I took the jeep out of the garage so mother nature could wash it.
But if I'm going to install new stuff, I may as well use soap.

I used the same car wash - and yes, I need to use some soap and a little elbow grease now. Rain was fun while it lasted

 

[GH05T]

Installed my Oracle flush mounts today. I have a LED equipped 2021 Rubicon with BSM. Install went like a breeze. Significantly less obtrusive than the OEM LED tails. Backup lights are about 3x as bright as the OEM LEDs. No gaps between the Jeep body/light body.

Instead of waiting around to see if I'd get errors, I did the Tazer fix immediately after install before driving off:

"Clear the DTCs, Toggle LED tails to NO, then YES immediately. Full Reboot, 3 sleep cycles. Start the Jeep & run both left and right turn signals for 20 seconds each." No warnings or issues after 40 minutes of driving.

They look great & I'm definitely happy with them.

 

[Cbacon]

Installed my Oracle flush mounts today. I have a LED equipped 2021 Rubicon with BSM. Install went like a breeze. Significantly less obtrusive than the OEM LED tails. Backup lights are about 3x as bright as the OEM LEDs. No gaps between the Jeep body/light body.

Instead of waiting around to see if I'd get errors, I did the Tazer fix immediately after install before driving off:

"Clear the DTCs, Toggle LED tails to NO, then YES immediately. Full Reboot, 3 sleep cycles. Start the Jeep & run both left and right turn signals for 20 seconds each." No warnings or issues after 40 minutes of driving.

They look great & I'm definitely happy with them.

Looks good. Have you had a chance to test out BSM? Drove mine on the hiway today. BSM probably only worked 5% of the time. Bigger the vehicle in blind spot the better it worked.

 

[Cbacon]

@ORACLElights BSM barely works. It detected maybe 5% of vehicles. Now what?

 

[Dyolfknip74]

Looks good. Have you had a chance to test out BSM? Drove mine on the hiway today. BSM probably only worked 5% of the time. Bigger the vehicle in blind spot the better it worked.

I'd be happy if the BSM even worked 1%. Lol. Get error as soon as I start the rig.

 

[Cbacon]

I'd be happy if the BSM even worked 1%. Lol. Get error as soon as I start the rig.

What errors are you getting? I get the taillight out and hyper flash.

 

[Dyolfknip74]

@ORACLElights BSM barely works. It detected maybe 5% of vehicles. Now what?

I think @JP_Oracle is who we need to talk to. He is support specialist. The other account is just promotion maybe?

Anyway JP, I have no BSM even after reseating connectors. Still get that error on start up. Instead on the other forum there was some sort of tip to get connectors to work or seat better?

Then, once we do get it working, it isn't working correctly.

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