First sighting of 2020 Jeep JL Wrangler PHEV Plug-In Hybrid!

[cjaama]

Can you explain your thought further?

When going down a hill, you can use electric motors as a generator instead, and charge a battery. This is a fact, not conjecture.

for all us dumb folks

What further explanation do you need?

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[rogo66]

Oh of course, its a small amount, but it helps squeeze just a little bit more use out of the battery charge.

I don't think any Hybrid owner is delusional enough to think they can have free energy, or shouldn't think that I would say.

What exactly are you stating my friend.

In English for all us dumb folks

How do you translate math to English?

 

[Northeastbst]

Can you explain your thought further?

When going down a hill, you can use electric motors as a generator instead, and charge a battery. This is a fact, not conjecture.

Yes, I agree.....

But, in the same sense that you can light up a light bulb with a potato

 

[Northeastbst]

What further explanation do you need?

Your relentlessness is proof perpetual motion exists

 

[Northeastbst]

How do you translate math to English?

1 = one

+ = plus

....and so on

 

[InvertedLogic]

Yes, I agree.....

But, in the same sense that you can light up a light bulb with a potato

No, actually in a pretty significant sense. Significant enough that car manufacturers decided it would be worth their while to capture it. Otherwise, why would they bother? Luckily, it's a pretty easy calculation to figure, and I can show you with numbers how much potential energy you could recover coming down a 1000ft road.

 

[Sean L]

Your relentlessness is proof perpetual motion exists

Okay that actually did make me laugh.

 

[suzookus]

Where do you think the batteries are? In the Pacifica they’re under the 2nd row seats and eliminate the stow and go capacity. Could be issues under the Jeep Wrangler with ground clearance?

 

[TimmH]

I totally understand believe me.


Like spending $100 on scratch tickets and one ticket wins $20.
Some would think they won $20, but in REALITY you just lost $80

awww man, spoiler..... don't tell me Santa Clause isn't real either? ROFL

 

[Sean L]

Where do you think the batteries are? In the Pacifica they’re under the 2nd row seats and eliminate the stow and go capacity. Could be issues under the Jeep Wrangler with ground clearance?

Probably the biggest unanswered question here.

 

[ThirtyOne]

Probably the biggest unanswered question here.

Lots of unanswered questions - how much weight? Where are the batteries? What is the range? What is the cost? How much torque?

Very interested in what these answers turn out to be.

 

[The_Phew]

Where do you think the batteries are? In the Pacifica they’re under the 2nd row seats and eliminate the stow and go capacity. Could be issues under the Jeep Wrangler with ground clearance?

They are probably removing the under-floor cargo cubby in the trunk, if I had to guess. That's where most PHEVs put them.

 

[Northeastbst]

No, actually in a pretty significant sense. Significant enough that car manufacturers decided it would be worth their while to capture it. Otherwise, why would they bother? Luckily, it's a pretty easy calculation to figure, and I can show you with numbers how much potential energy you could recover coming down a 1000ft road.

Please do...I'm always willing to learn.

Keeps me from becoming ignorant.

 

[ThirtyOne]

Please do...I'm always willing to learn.

Keeps me from becoming ignorant.

This is pretty readable, though obviously not the most objective source:

https://electrek.co/2018/04/24/regenerative-braking-how-it-works/

 

[Northeastbst]

awww man, spoiler..... don't tell me Santa Clause isn't real either? ROFL

I wouldn't dare

Lots of unanswered questions - how much weight? Where are the batteries? What is the range? What is the cost? How much torque?

Very interested in what these answers turn out to be.

....plus the added weight of the battery('s).

JL is 100lbs lighter than JK(I think)

With the hybrid you can kiss those weight savings goodbye

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