Fire at Jeep Wrangler storage lot in Toledo

[Blu bi Kong]

being stuck in alorton hell may be better than being here?

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[aug0211]

Real or fake news?

 

[TIDALWAVE]

Look at the bright side...if you ordered a Mojito...you are probably not going to have to worry.

 

[56nomad56]

Fuzzy Math!

Only fuzzy if you're trying to disagree. Numbers don't lie. There are 17 vehicle fires PER HOUR in the US. You're much more likely to be involved in a car fire in a ICE vehicle than in an electric vehicle. Show me your data to the contrary and I will humbly concede.

https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Property-type-and-vehicles/Vehicles

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/12/131206-tesla-car-fire-probe/

 

[yz kid]

We just can't catch a break...

 

[DickZip]

Wonderful. Now I get to add spontaneous combustion to the list of potential JL quality issues to worry about.

I liked this post, but I really don't like it,

 

[CZ 75]

Only fuzzy if you're trying to disagree. Numbers don't lie. There are 17 vehicle fires PER HOUR in the US. You're much more likely to be involved in a car fire in a ICE vehicle than in an electric vehicle. Show me your data to the contrary and I will humbly concede.

https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Property-type-and-vehicles/Vehicles

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/12/131206-tesla-car-fire-probe/

Jeeps don't drive themselves into concrete medians and broadside big rigs.

 

[aug0211]

Jeeps don't drive themselves into concrete medians and broadside big rigs.

They drive themselves to JS and hide from the scary self driving machines.

 

[NCSUSTATS]

They are all black

Lol

 

[Majestic]

Only fuzzy if you're trying to disagree. Numbers don't lie. There are 17 vehicle fires PER HOUR in the US. You're much more likely to be involved in a car fire in a ICE vehicle than in an electric vehicle. Show me your data to the contrary and I will humbly concede.

https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/By-topic/Property-type-and-vehicles/Vehicles

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/12/131206-tesla-car-fire-probe/

How often does this happen to ICE’s ?https://www.google.com/amp/s/artofg...rns-to-the-ground-at-norway-supercharger/amp/

There’s far less EVs in the US than ICE’s so it would make sense more ICE’s are involved in crashes.

 

[Scott1911]

Have ya'll checked out the Facebook page "Jeep Plant Toledo OH". Sometimes they have some relative information on production and events. Related to this fire, nothing. Just to pass time, you may want to go there to see the characters that have built these things we are lusting over.

 

[Martindfletcher]

They are all black

Lol. :cwl:

 

[56nomad56]

How often does this happen to ICE’s ?https://www.google.com/amp/s/artofg...rns-to-the-ground-at-norway-supercharger/amp/

There’s far less EVs in the US than ICE’s so it would make sense more ICE’s are involved in crashes.

You're kidding, right? YouTube "gas station fires" and HUNDREDS of videos will come up. Notice the warnings at gas stations to discharge static electricity before fueling? So you can blow up your car by getting back into your car seat, and you're worried about Teslas catching fire?

Also, incidents are measured per billion of miles driven. That removes numbers of vehicles and normalizes the results. There are 55 fires per billion miles driven for ICEs, and 5 per billion for Teslas. Since you don't seem to understand statistics, I'll help you out. Tesla's catch fire at a rate that's 9% that of ICEs per billion of miles driven. You can't spin that data, it is what it is.

I did a search, the total number of Tesla fire incidents I could find worldwide was around 40, and some were due to massive undercarriage impacts that would have absolutely destroyed a typical car that doesn't have the "armor" that the underfloor battery provides. The Tesla incidents are news because it's a new technology. In comparison, there were 174,000 vehicle fires in 2015, and that number only represent reported fires.

The Model X has the highest safety rating of any SUV. Ever. They couldn't even get it to roll over during testing:

http://www.thedrive.com/news/20979/...ly-try-to-roll-the-model-x-during-crash-tests

OTOH-
NHTSA Wrangler ratings (2017 JKU): Frontal driver side 3/5, frontal passenger side 2/5, rollover 3/5.
IIHS Wrangler ratings: Moderate overlap: good, side impact: poor, rear impact: marginal, small overlap: marginal

Jeep Wrangler owners talking smack about safety of other vehicles...that's rich.

I like Teslas. Borrowed a P100D for a full day just last week. Fantastic car, unbelievable acceleration. I like Jeeps. That's why I'm on this site, looking for a JL for my son. But I'm not going to disparage one or the other without knowing what the hell I'm talking about.

 

[CZ 75]

You're kidding, right? YouTube "gas station fires" and HUNDREDS of videos will come up. Notice the warnings at gas stations to discharge static electricity before fueling? So you can blow up your car by getting back into your car seat, and you're worried about Teslas catching fire?

Also, incidents are measured per billion of miles driven. That removes numbers of vehicles and normalizes the results. There are 55 fires per billion miles driven for ICEs, and 5 per billion for Teslas. Since you don't seem to understand statistics, I'll help you out. Tesla's catch fire at a rate that's 9% that of ICEs per billion of miles driven. You can't spin that data, it is what it is.

I did a search, the total number of Tesla fire incidents I could find worldwide was around 40, and some were due to massive undercarriage impacts that would have absolutely destroyed a typical car that doesn't have the "armor" that the underfloor battery provides. The Tesla incidents are news because it's a new technology. In comparison, there were 174,000 vehicle fires in 2015, and that number only represent reported fires.

The Model X has the highest safety rating of any SUV. Ever. They couldn't even get it to roll over during testing:

http://www.thedrive.com/news/20979/...ly-try-to-roll-the-model-x-during-crash-tests

OTOH-
NHTSA Wrangler ratings (2017 JKU): Frontal driver side 3/5, frontal passenger side 2/5, rollover 3/5.
IIHS Wrangler ratings: Moderate overlap: good, side impact: poor, rear impact: marginal, small overlap: marginal

Jeep Wrangler owners talking smack about safety of other vehicles...that's rich.

I like Teslas. Borrowed a P100D for a full day just last week. Fantastic car, unbelievable acceleration. I like Jeeps. That's why I'm on this site, looking for a JL for my son. But I'm not going to disparage one or the other without knowing what the hell I'm talking about.

The safety concerns with Tesla mainly stem from their well publicized failures of the autopilot system and the dim witted drivers relying entirely on a machine for their safety. Their crash results are strong.

 

[NCSUSTATS]

Tesla is an amazing vehicle...costs more to make it than costs to buy it...great deal day 1. While I do fear the company’s longterm viabilty given its not making a profit, and what that could mean for upkeep cost/viabilty of a Tesla vehicle, I look at Jeep and wonder how the F this company has been in business so long (for diff reasons though)

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