Engine decision

[Remorseless]

You're making a big assumption.

Did you ever consider the possibility that he could be strapping the pole to the roof already but he still needs the 4 door?

If the pole needs to be girthy enough to require a school bus he might wanna consider stopping at a Weight Watchers meeting on the way home

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[yokramer]

You're making a big assumption.

Did you ever consider the possibility that he could be strapping the pole to the roof already but he still needs the 4 door?

The seat comes out of the 2 door he can make it work

 

[James Westfall]

Youre saying this like jeep is the most reliable vehicle ever and you will never have to shell out for repairs that will cost you. Again if $208 a month is a game changer for you maybe a wrangler isnt the right vehicle for you.

Same thing - you are assuming that the cost of premium is a "game changer" and i'm trying to explain to you that that's not a smart assumption. Perhaps the expected cost of repairs is another of many reasons a JL owner would prefer to not have to shell out for premium.

Again - I agree with the sentiment "if you can't afford to maintain it, don't buy it". but that's not really the situation here. You don't HAVE to buy premium to own a JL, there are other engine choices, and even the 2.0 doesn't HAVE to have premium.

So you're just complaining about something for the sake of complaining.

If you don't want to pay for premium, don't buy a vehicle that uses it.

It's not that complicated.

You forget that I wasn't the one complaining. I just jumped in to point out a flawed rebuttal to one such complain.

But I agree - it's not complicated. Pretty sure I illustrated that.

There are dumb ways to spend money, but I'd hardly call putting premium fuel in a car that does benefit (there is definitely a stupidly massive thread on it yet again...) from premium fuel in the same ballpark.

But you know what's even LESS dumb? Simply avoiding motors that require premium altogether. Again - no matter how much money you have, getting the same thing for less is a smart strategy.

 

[yokramer]

Same thing - you are assuming that the cost of premium is a "game changer" and i'm trying to explain to you that that's not a smart assumption. Perhaps the expected cost of repairs is another of many reasons a JL owner would prefer to not have to shell out for premium.

No thanks to the 2.0L, 4-cylinder turbo engine.

-For the 2.0L, 4-cyl., premium fuel is recommended, although Jeep says you can use regular fuel. Premium is usually $1.00+ more expensive per gallon over regular. No Thanks.

Guessing you missed this part. If spending $2500 a year on fuel is a deal breaker for you yet the rest of the money you are going to spend being a jeep owner isnt youre being dishonest with yourself. If the $2500 is a dealbreaker the jeep isnt for you.

 

[James Westfall]

Guessing you missed this part. If spending $2500 a year on fuel is a deal breaker for you yet the rest of the money you are going to spend being a jeep owner isnt youre being dishonest with yourself. If the $2500 is a dealbreaker the jeep isnt for you.

No, I caught it. You are missing my point, and it's clear you just aren't going to get it. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

 

[Remorseless]

But you know what's even LESS dumb? Simply avoiding motors that require premium altogether. Again - no matter how much money you have, getting the same thing for less is a smart strategy.

The only remaining option is the 3.6, which let's be honest, is probably going to cost more long run anyway. Less fuel efficient, eventually intake cams are going to be hoarded like gold and will cost your dignity to obtain one, if you even browse larger tires you have to factor in the cost of a regear to like 5.38s or you're a puppy murderer, and good luck with that stupid oil filter housing.

And the 392 doesn't count, it can only be had in school bus form, so it's not even available in an actual Jeep, AND you have to factor in the cost of an Atlas for when the stupid clutches blow out in the tcase.

 

[Guv]

Unless you can guarantee that Junior won’t fill up his 2.0 MANUAL with 87 and proceed to lug the ever living shit out of it you probably aren’t going to get this option in a JEEP. I don’t think all the engine controls out there could keep him from blowing a hole in one of his pistons.

 

[James Westfall]

The only remaining option is the 3.6, which let's be honest, is probably going to cost more long run anyway. Less fuel efficient, eventually intake cams are going to be hoarded like gold and will cost your dignity to obtain one, if you even browse larger tires you have to factor in the cost of a regar to like 5.38s or you're a puppy murderer, and good luck with that stupid oil filter housing.

The 3.6 and 2.0 have been roughly the same in repair cost, in my experience. The 2.0 just allows you to pay that cost in smaller payments over time. The 3.6 requires a large one-time payment.

You might call the 2.0 "the payment plan".

 

[Remorseless]

The 3.6 and 2.0 have been roughly the same in repair cost, in my experience. The 2.0 just allows you to pay that cost in smaller payments over time. The 3.6 requires a large one-time payment.

You might call the 2.0 "the payment plan".

It's only one time because people sell it before it happens again to them.

But also, assuming that were the case, it still costs you more in fuel inefficiency and in necessary supporting modifications to support typical Jeep modifications.

 

[James Westfall]

It's only one time because people sell it before it happens again to them.

But also, assuming that were the case, it still costs you more in fuel inefficiency and in necessary supporting modifications to support typical Jeep modifications.

I don't agree - the 2.0 issues continue to happen too...and I've seen barely a 1mpg difference between my 2.0's and 3.6's...mod for mod. The fuel cost (cause I use premium) more than offsets the efficiency gains.

 

[Cutterone]

I find that the higher the cost of gas, the slower I roll. Dash is stating 22.2 mpg at the moment, I'm sure its a bit optimistic but if I can average a solid 20+ year 'round for the brick I'm happy...

 

[ASSFROW]

You're making a big assumption.

Did you ever consider the possibility that he could be strapping the pole to the roof already but he still needs the 4 door?

What I was thinking.

 

[Remorseless]

I don't agree - the 2.0 issues continue to happen too...and I've seen barely a 1mpg difference between my 2.0's and 3.6's...mod for mod. The fuel cost (cause I use premium) more than offsets the efficiency gains.

My 2.0 on 37s routinely turns in 2+MPG against my JT with the 3.6 on stock 285s. Maybe you just drive like a whacko?

 

[yokramer]

No, I caught it. You are missing my point, and it's clear you just aren't going to get it. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

You are arguing a totally different point from me trying to win some imaginary argument in your head. If the reason you wont buy the 2.0 is because it takes premium fuel and you cant get over that little bit of extra expense then a jeep isnt the vehicle for you. There are so many things that cost far more than that that people just burn money on their jeeps to cry about premium is just silly.

 

[ASSFROW]

My 2.0 on 37s routinely turns in 2+MPG against my JT with the 3.6 on stock 285s. Maybe you just drive like a whacko?

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