Are you still running this lift kit? I think this may be my route as I'm a light trail rider and do a lot of daily drivingI made the mistake of posting my findings on a popular Facebook group (I'm sure many of the members here are a part of). It brought out the "my kit is better than yours" crowd. As I tried to allude to, I had certain criteria that I was going for (and in this order):
1. Better handling - I think they handle like shit from factory...way too much body roll for my taste.2. Better comfort - sometimes this is a trade off due with the goal of getting better handling - nevertheless, it was desire of mine to have with an 'improved' suspension.3. JUST enough lift to put 37's on the Jeep with no to minimal rubbing. Im a huge fan of low center of gravity since I'm often found tilted over on the side of a mountain on the weekends!
I quote Eddie from [Banned Site], "is it the biggest and baddest kit on the market, no...but it wasn't designed to be". In my opinion its the best of all worlds and solves MY exact specification for what I wanted in a lift kit. [search [Banned Site] on YouTube for a review and interview with Tony by Eddie]
What I feel is often overlooked by the Jeep community is the tuning of the shocks with the springs. I come from a racing background (albeit limited - weekend SCCA and Skip Barber). I learned the hard way that adding the latest and greatest shocks to unmatched springs results in a ride that is often WORSE than a stock set up. I still have a BMW in the garage that loves to bottom out due to a mismatching of spring rate and shock combo that I did a couple years ago. I was just about to swap out that suspension but then I discovered how much more exciting owning and wheeling a Jeep can be every weekend in the mountains than a couple times a year on the track. BTW, if anyone wants the other car in my garage, it needs a home since the Jeep gets all the attention now.
Back on topic...spring and shock rates are what Tony (from Dynatrac) focused most on. They didn't just call Fox and 'say send me a couple pallets of your 2.0s' then match them with some off the shelf springs. Their shocks have custom valve tuning within them to match the specs of the springs. While this is all mathematics, you can clearly feel it with the ride quality and the handling. Everything just feels like its in harmony - this probably the best way of looking at it.
To make a long story short, you asked "how much softer these springs are from factory". I really can't answer that question as it would best be told by using a spring measuring device. What I WILL tell you is that I have noticed no reduction in the "softness" factor and a hell of a lot of handling improvement. When you add the two together (in combination with the lift amount that I WAS LOOKING FOR) you get a combination that has caused me to fall in love with my Jeep again.
Given all my issues I was honestly losing faith in and not enjoying driving it anymore. I never felt truly "comfortable" in it other than on the trails (minus the height issue and scraping all the time). The problem is you have to take the highway to get to the trails so I needed to sort this out as best I could to enjoy the overall ride - and the entire day of wheeling, not just a few miles going 2 MPH.
Nevertheless, I can't stress enough, if YOUR needs are just like mine and you want a no nonsense, no maintenance kit that gives you the height you need along with improved handling and (perceived) better comfort, then I highly suggest you consider the Dynatrac kit. If you desire a 3.5" kit, adjustability of every joint (which you will only do once), constant greasing of your joints, constant changing of adjustable dampeners, then this isn't for you.
One more thing, as you said above, yes, I was able to to a true apples to apples test. I see a lot of people here who throw on larger tires at the same time as their lift. I would highly suggest you NOT do that. Keep the stock wheels, do your lift and live with it for a while. Get the suspension all sorted out before you add other factors to the equation. Granted, if I had my tires I would have probably thrown them on at the same time but I'm glad I didnt.
I hope this answers your question. I know how difficult it can be to figure out what lift kit to get given so many differing opinions. And yes, this is JUST my opinion and findings based on my needs...and they (Tony and Dynatrac) hit it out of the park for me!
BTW, Im really surprised that my findings didn't flush out the my-kit-is-better-than-yours people on this forum like it did on Facebook. Either the people here truly understand the fact that the best kit on the market is the one that solves YOUR needs or those people just haven't woken up yet this morning. Sadly Im sure we will soon see the people posting on this thread saying things like "XXXXX kit is better than this". But, to each their own.
whats the offset on your wheels?Just my 2 cents . I was looking at multiple lifts for my JLUR early on in 2018 and was blessed to win the Dynatrac lift kit in an online raffle. I can say without a doubt that this kit is perfect for me. I wanted to keep a lower center of gravity, run 35” tires, and keep or improve on my stock handling. This kit was everything I was looking for and at a reasonable price (compared to the mopar lift)
Like many of you, I was early in my order to buy the new Wrangler. I had 2 orders fall through and finally had my February 12th order go through to production. I was pretty set on the early Icon lift and the guys at Icon we’re and still are great. I have pics with their Jeep next to mine early on last year. I still love my Icon rims
I put Cooper STT Pro 315’s on at about a thousand miles or so. I ran that with stock shocks and springs for about 10-12k. I started to have some issues with tire cupping ( usually due to heavy tires and poor shocks, misalignment or balance issues). I have been meticulous with rotating and balancing every 4-5k and keeping my pressures equal at 32-34.
The dealer as well as 2 other off road shops told me that the stock shocks were just not keeping up with the larger tires and vehicle weight. Initially, I planned on waiting for the higher stages of the Icon lift but decided to put the Endurosport on as a had it sitting in my garage. I am so glad I put this lift on my wrangler JLUR. It sits at a perfect stance and doesn’t make the 35’s look like roller skates. The Jeep rides great on and off road and after running this lift now for a few months and almost 10k miles, I love it!
I have over 20k miles on my Jeep and still can’t wait to drive it everyday. Just thinking about it makes me smile. Best wishes to all of you jeepers. Enjoy your ride!
Did you change out any other steering components at the time of this install?Nah, those are the stock rubicon tires the dealer gave me for free. Figured no need to jump to 35s with a free set handed to me.
Here is another crappy photo of the side. I parked in the center of the garage and ran into my storage rack. I can grab a better picture tomorrow.
The reason for loosening the LCA Bolts is not for ease of installation. It is so the bushings are in a neutral position when you retighten to proper torque when sitting on the ground with all the weight on the suspension. By not loosening them you are binding the bushing which can cause premature wear.Here is my review of the whole process:
Ordered lift from Northridge4x4 on March 27 and received the lift exactly a month after ordering. It was shipped directly from Dynatrac.
This was my very suspension install.
I installed the lift in the garage on my JL Willys Unlimited 2.0
I used 2 floor jacks (2 1/2 tons), 1 spare tire jack, and 4 jack stands (3 tons).
To get the axle to droop far enough, I raised the frame 19.4 inches supported by jack stands.
I used each floor jack on each end of the axle to adjust the droop/angles for install.
I did not need to loosen any track bolts/LCA bolts.
Install was straight forward.
I ran into a couple of hiccups along the way.
The instructions does not indicate the proper orientation for the new rear sway bars. My first attempt the rear sway bar was rubbing on the rim. It took a couple of tries to find the correct orientation for each side.
STOCK HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS (ground to fender): 37.6 INCHES
LIFT MEASURMENTS: 40.1 INCHES
TOTAL LIFT: 2.6 INCHES
Install Time: 8 hrs 45 min which included buttoning/fine tuning to specs.
After lift, I have driven 112 highway miles and the suspension is much more controlled than stock.
Less body rolling/swaying. It is very soft and smooth.
I took it off road 10 miles on an easy rated trail and caught myself stepping on the gas wanting more speed.
I definitely recommend this lift and will give an update later in the future to see how it holds up in time.
I totally agree with the review that you had. We ended up deciding to go with this lift after a friend suggested that would be the best for a smaller lift and also mostly on road driving. Got this lift installed Thursday and rides great!