Didnt get the anti-spin diffs..

[Strommen95]

For $500 it’s a wonderful option, but come on... any Wrangler with good tires, open diff or not, is going to do just fine in the snow.

My $0.02.

I completely agree, but the real bang for your buck is getting the D44 rear axle with the LSD option over a D35. That’s why it’s a “must have” option for many with the JL.

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[WalkingJL]

With all the bearing trouble people are having with the D44 upgrade I'd be glad you forgot about it.

 

[jaozus]

With all the bearing trouble people are having with the D44 upgrade I'd be glad you forgot about it.

I actually still have the D44, just w/o the lsd :/

 

[RubenZ]

The LSD sucks In These JL’s anyway! Lots of people experiencing nocking and the clutches falling g apart. But it is nice having the bigger axle though.

 

[Adventure.AS]

This discussion about LSD and snow keeps coming up, but who are the people that are driving unplowed roads? Whoever they are, they’re a small population.

For $500 it’s a wonderful option, but come on... any Wrangler with good tires, open diff or not, is going to do just fine in the snow.

My $0.02.

There is quite a large population, millions of people in both the USA and Canada, that live around the Great Lakes. We can usually count on at least one blizzard per winter when the plows can't keep up. Although wide tires look cool, the narrow 'pizza cutters' usually do better in the deep snow up here, especially if combined with at least a LSD for those icy hills.

 

[Uhdinator]

Went from a Rubicon with no traction control features and limited slip rear diff (lockers only work in 4lo) to a Sport JL with open diffs and traction control. No big deal, the traction control works as good as no traction control and a LSD. Thats why the newer Rubicons did away with the need for the LSD. The only reason they added the LSD in the non-Rubi models is to add capability off road for those without lockers. The Brake lock diff feature does a very good job in most cases.

 

[anotherWS6]

Keep in mind that traction control turns off when you put it into 4lo. At least with a 6M anyway, which is when you REALLY want that posi or whatever jeep uses rear. COuld be a non issue for many, for me that makes it a must have. A must have regardless IMO, though I have noticed that the traction control does do a pretty good job.

 

[robaw]

This discussion about LSD and snow keeps coming up, but who are the people that are driving unplowed roads? Whoever they are, they’re a small population.

For $500 it’s a wonderful option, but come on... any Wrangler with good tires, open diff or not, is going to do just fine in the snow.

My $0.02.

Where I live there's not much of a difference between "plowed" and "unplowed" roads, even after the road plows go by the roads are terrible!

 

[robaw]

The LSD sucks In These JL’s anyway! Lots of people experiencing nocking and the clutches falling g apart. But it is nice having the bigger axle though.

Interesting, I've read 1000's of posts on here and have seen never any posts stating that. Not saying you're wrong, just that I had no idea.

 

[Uhdinator]

Brake lock diff function works in 2WD, 4H, and 4L. The button shuts off traction control as does 4L, but BLD always works. The traction control function is separate and reduces power when it senses one axle is spinning faster than the other and the spinning is detected to be excessive as compared to actual speed. Thats why you want it off in deep snow or in sand to keep the power from being reduced and it does not detect what one axle is doing compared to the other. The only use for traction control being on is in rain or packed snow and ice. Oh and I just went up a steep trail today in my Sport with no LSD. Over 5 yrs ago I did the same trail in a Rubicon and needed the rear locker to get up it (even though it had a LSD rear also).. Well I can say my Sport climbed it just fine. The only difference is technique.......when one tire starts slipping/spinning you just keep the throttle the same and if nothing changes.......gradually increase throttle and it will start to go.......worked beautifully as well as the hill decent feature and you don't want to lunge ahead abruptly in a spot like this.

 

[GreyFox]

Brake lock diff function works in 2WD, 4H, and 4L. The button shuts off traction control as does 4L, but BLD always works. The traction control function is separate and reduces power when it senses one axle is spinning faster than the other and the spinning is detected to be excessive as compared to actual speed. Thats why you want it off in deep snow or in sand to keep the power from being reduced and it does not detect what one axle is doing compared to the other. The only use for traction control being on is in rain or packed snow and ice. Oh and I just went up a steep trail today in my Sport with no LSD. Over 5 yrs ago I did the same trail in a Rubicon and needed the rear locker to get up it (even though it had a LSD rear also).. Well I can say my Sport climbed it just fine. The only difference is technique.......when one tire starts slipping/spinning you just keep the throttle the same and if nothing changes.......gradually increase throttle and it will start to go.......worked beautifully as well as the hill decent feature and you don't want to lunge ahead abruptly in a spot like this.

Love the picture

 

[Alpha Delta]

Brake lock diff function works in 2WD, 4H, and 4L. The button shuts off traction control as does 4L, but BLD always works. The traction control function is separate and reduces power when it senses one axle is spinning faster than the other and the spinning is detected to be excessive as compared to actual speed. Thats why you want it off in deep snow or in sand to keep the power from being reduced and it does not detect what one axle is doing compared to the other. The only use for traction control being on is in rain or packed snow and ice. Oh and I just went up a steep trail today in my Sport with no LSD. Over 5 yrs ago I did the same trail in a Rubicon and needed the rear locker to get up it (even though it had a LSD rear also).. Well I can say my Sport climbed it just fine. The only difference is technique.......when one tire starts slipping/spinning you just keep the throttle the same and if nothing changes.......gradually increase throttle and it will start to go.......worked beautifully as well as the hill decent feature and you don't want to lunge ahead abruptly in a spot like this.

Very nice. Where is that?

 

[Uhdinator]

Not far from Worthley Pond, Peru Maine.

On top of this Cliff . You can see part of the trail up the back side. Its pretty steep in spots. https://www.mountainproject.com/map/112294671/peru-tumbledown-dick

 

[tCub]

Brake lock diff function works in 2WD, 4H, and 4L. The button shuts off traction control as does 4L, but BLD always works. The traction control function is separate and reduces power when it senses one axle is spinning faster than the other and the spinning is detected to be excessive as compared to actual speed. Thats why you want it off in deep snow or in sand to keep the power from being reduced and it does not detect what one axle is doing compared to the other. The only use for traction control being on is in rain or packed snow and ice. Oh and I just went up a steep trail today in my Sport with no LSD. Over 5 yrs ago I did the same trail in a Rubicon and needed the rear locker to get up it (even though it had a LSD rear also).. Well I can say my Sport climbed it just fine. The only difference is technique.......when one tire starts slipping/spinning you just keep the throttle the same and if nothing changes.......gradually increase throttle and it will start to go.......worked beautifully as well as the hill decent feature and you don't want to lunge ahead abruptly in a spot like this.

Can confirm through experience that BLD works extremely well. I have video of me wheeling my Sport S (2.5” lift w/ 33x12s) where you can see when one tire stops making contact with the ground, it immediately stops turning. This was in 4L too with traction control off. Maybe doesn’t work as well as true lockers, but I’m impressed at how immediate and consistent it’s been.

Regarding snow driving, I live in north east Ohio so trust me on this - get good tires. Last year (on my birthday!) we got a really bad snow storm. Went out and drove around all day just to test things out and I’m blown away by how good this thing is in snow. Also got plowed in the next morning since I park in the street. Hopped in, shift into 4L, and pulled right through a mountain of snow like it was nothing.

Have fun!

 

[RubenZ]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/knock-in-rear-with-dana-44.16921/

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/2018-wrangler-jlu-sport-clunking-sound.28161/

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