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Did Jeep Botch the JLUR 3.0 Payload Rating?

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Sure seems like they did. Any thoughts as to how they managed to get such a large discrepancy? The TFL 3.0 even has the steel bumpers.
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The cargo value on sticker is wrong and should be 1100?

We saw that the scale says the front axle of JLURD is 280lbs more than rear.

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The payload rating on your door jam sticker is always placed by the tire company and is not true rating of the vehicle. This is true for most vehicles and not just Wrangler or Jeep. My RAM 1500 is rated for a payload 400lbs heavier then what the sticker says. Get different tires and the rating would go up to reflect the current equipment.
 
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The payload rating on your door jam sticker is always placed by the tire company and is not true rating of the vehicle. This is true for most vehicles and not just Wrangler or Jeep. My RAM 1500 is rated for a payload 400lbs heavier then what the sticker says. Get different tires and the rating would go up to reflect the current equipment.
I don’t think many folks will have any luck convincing an insurance company that better tires warranted exceeding the GVWR if they get in a wreck and it’s questioned.
 

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The key is to get the vehicle rating updated. I've done this for several of my truck customers. The actual rating of the vehicle won't change but the sticker on the door is just the tire rating. That can be updated.
 

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The key is to get the vehicle rating updated. I've done this for several of my truck customers. The actual rating of the vehicle won't change but the sticker on the door is just the tire rating. That can be updated.
Who does one go to to get that done?
 

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Their is a couple ways to do this. Some tire shops can update it or at least give you a letter of proof stating the load capacity of the tires. Some upfitters have the ability to change the actual placard on the vehicle based on an upfit. Changing out the wheels can count as an upfit and they can re certify it.
 

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The payload rating on your door jam sticker is always placed by the tire company and is not true rating of the vehicle. This is true for most vehicles and not just Wrangler or Jeep. My RAM 1500 is rated for a payload 400lbs heavier then what the sticker says. Get different tires and the rating would go up to reflect the current equipment.
So, I am understanding you to say that you can get the cargo/payload updated based on tire capability but the overall GVWR does not change. I know the GVWR is set by the chassis manufacturer based on many things other than tires... frame, suspension, braking, etc.
 

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Yes so to use an example the GVWR of a JLUR Diesel that we have on our lot right now is 5800. The weight of the vehicle is 4758. That means the remaining available weight or the payload is 1042lbs. Now the sticker on the door says 850 but we know what the real rating is and I would go off of that.
 

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I've never heard that before in my life. What I have heard is that the door jamb placard is the law, and the owner MUST comply with it when loading/hauling.
 

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I don’t think many folks will have any luck convincing an insurance company that better tires warranted exceeding the GVWR if they get in a wreck and it’s questioned.
So, I am understanding you to say that you can get the cargo/payload updated based on tire capability but the overall GVWR does not change. I know the GVWR is set by the chassis manufacturer based on many things other than tires... frame, suspension, braking, etc.
That is 100% correct. The gross vehicle weight rating supersedes anything else printed on the door. Tire/cargo/payload capacities are meaningless when it comes to the max weight of vehicle on the ground.

When your rig is built the way you like, fill up with fuel and take it to the scales. Subtract the GVW from the GVWR and you have the weight of what you can legally put in your vehicle.

By the time you start adding in all the aftermarket modifications, you will be surprised how quickly the loss in actual payload capacity.

Just going from OEM to aftermarket lift, skids, tracking/sway/control arms, 37"+ tire with bead locks, Dana 60 Axles, winch and bumpers. Now you are looking at over 1/4 ton heavier vehicle with no cargo.
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