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Thank you @Roky and pleasure to e-meet you @Wabujitsu and @Buckster .... I will be a Sarasota county resident in a matter of weeks. Hoping to find some cool local wheeling spots and (hopefully with some luck) some beaches to drive and camp on, but from what I have read, the only drivable beach around is Daytona beach.
Sure brother, no worries, you need anything, reach out.
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Sarasota, not too far South of you!
Paul, I’ve sent you a private message with my cell phone number. Welcome to Florida and Sarasota County!
 

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The Mopar 2” lift.......

I’ve installed over a dozen Mopar lifts over the last couple years on the JL. For whatever reason ( probably anticipating added weight ) the Mopar lift gives more than 2” of lift and they don’t include the parts to make it as it should be.

The best way to tell exactly how much lift you get, if you’re able to, is to measure from the top of front axle to the bottom lip of the upper coil spring housing before and after lift, the difference is how much lift you actually get .......

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When you get more than 2” of lift your caster is decreased and your axles shift, front to the drivers side and rear to the passenger side. Because everything on the alignment read out doesn’t show anything out of spec, that’s how they justify not adding parts to the lift kit.

Now you can drive it as is on the highway or light trails without issues. But if you’re gonna be off-roading and want it to drive better on the highway then you need to add a few things to the kit, the brand is up to you....

1 - front adjustable track bar to re-center the front axle.
2 - rear track bar relocation bracket if you want to keep factory rear track bar or an adjustable track bar
3 - front lower adjustable control arms to increase your caster ( around 6 or a little more is optimal ) to minimize if not eliminate wandering on the highway.
4 - front lower RK coil spring isolators. This is optional depending on how much spring bow you got and how hard you wheel it, the ones in the kit can collapse.

Some don’t care that things are a little off and are using the kit as is which is fine. There is no real ill effects short term but long term I think the factory lower control arm bushings will wear faster being in a slight bind. Again, this is in more extreme cases.

I have no science to back that up , only a couple guys that came to me a year and a half later with worn bushings. This could also be it’s just the way they use their rig, I don’t know. But I won’t install anymore Mopar lifts if the customer doesn’t have these extra parts with them........

Here’s some pics of a more extreme example........

You can see the axle shifted

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this axle was over an inch off...

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Here’s a collapsed coil isolator

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Again this is just a guideline to what to look for and address if you have some of these issues with your Mopar lift. IMHO, if you do these few things you'll enjoy your lift a lot more............:)
Thank you so much for summarizing those components. This was really helpful. Now it's time to see if I can find the components mentioned in one location and maybe only one manufacture to keep things simple.


Is rockkrawler.com a legit place to go with for the components you mentioned? adjustable track bar and such?
 
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Thank you so much for summarizing those components. This was really helpful. Now it's time to see if I can find the components mentioned in one location and maybe only one manufacture to keep things simple.


Is rockkrawler.com a legit place to go with for the components you mentioned? adjustable track bar and such?
No problem bud..... Best thing to do is contact Marcus @River City Offroad on here or visit his website. He’s a great guy and will hook you up. He also gives discount for forum members.
 

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Finally after a couple years, installed the nurserts for my inner fenders. When I got them, I had so much shit going on, I just put some sheetmetal screws in it and kept going, lol. Some stripped out so had to put in different size and so on. Well.... when I started having to use 3 different tools to take out the variety of fasteners on one fender, I knew I needed to show it some attention......:facepalm:.....

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While I had them off I freshened them up a little and added some more Rubi red accent......:)

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Finally after a couple years, installed the nurserts for my inner fenders. When I got them, I had so much shit going on, I just put some sheetmetal screws in it and kept going, lol. Some stripped out so had to put in different size and so on. Well.... when I started having to use 3 different tools to take out the variety of fasteners on one fender, I knew I needed to show it some attention......:facepalm:.....

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While I had them off I freshened them up a little and added some more Rubi red accent......:)

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As always - nice work. Nice and clean for a while. Always love the red accents :like:
 
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Started the long arm install today. Only put in a couple hours, but got the axle out, ready for cutting and grinding. Pain in the ass wrestling it by myself...........:whew:.

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I’ll leave my jack stands in place for reinstall, hopefully it will make it easier to put back in.

I had so much stuff, the kit, my tools, ( I like using my own), and misc stuff, I just brought my little box trailer.

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she’ll spend the night on the operating table....:)

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Started the long arm install today. Only put in a couple hours, but got the axle out, ready for cutting and grinding. Pain in the ass wrestling it by myself...........:whew:.

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I’ll leave my jack stands in place for reinstall, hopefully it will make it easier to put back in.

I had so much stuff, the kit, my tools, ( I like using my own), and misc stuff, I just brought my little box trailer.

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she’ll spend the night on the operating table....:)

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I know I’ve said before, but how sweet it is to have a lift 👍🏻

I bet move axle alone is a pain in the a@@
 

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Got axle done, just need to clean and paint……. 🙂 …… also welded the tubes.

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Nice weld. Looks like put a bead around carrier 👍🏻
 
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Nice weld. Looks like put a bead around carrier 👍🏻
Yeah….. this guy is pretty good, he used to build monster trucks back in the day. I was introduced to him by another local forum member. Gotta love the Jeep community. I figured might as well weld up the axle tubes, we were right there, only took a minute.
 
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Yeah….. this guy is pretty good, he used to build monster trucks back in the day. I was introduced to him by another local forum member. Gotta love the Jeep community. I figured might as well weld up the axle tubes, we were right there, only took a minute.
Definitely awesome community 👍🏻 . For sure good move on axle tubes. Especially when you jump to 40s 😉
Frame mounts next? Should be a little better standing up using lift for that portion.
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