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And your previous posts about it being sold as something else are just patently false. The 1947 Mahindra CJ3B was sold as Jeep with full Willys licensing and namesake. They did not adopt other names for them until much later on when they had changed the original design. Thar wasn't used until 2009.

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Interesting, I didn't know it was street certified. Being an old-Old jeep owner of several CJ 5 and 7's it drew my interest. Yes FCA needs to protect their interest. Almost bought a Defender 90 a few years back, to expensive, their newer version being manufactured is in the realm of a JL Rubicon. But I would opt for the Rubicon any day if going off road.
It IS NOT street certified. Certain states allow it, with restrictions, on certain paved roads if it is modified (turn signals, horn, etc.) just as they allow side by sides on certain roads. It would NOT be allowed on a freeway, for instance. Don't believe they are allowed on any Federally funded highway either (highway with a "US95" designation, for instance).
 

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It IS NOT street certified. Certain states allow it, with restrictions, on certain paved roads if it is modified (turn signals, horn, etc.) just as they allow side by sides on certain roads. It would NOT be allowed on a freeway, for instance. Don't believe they are allowed on any Federally funded highway either (highway with a "US95" designation, for instance).
It's only illegal if you get caught! ;)
 

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It only does like 55 or so, so you would stand out pretty badly.
I just called a dealership near me. The guy said he has 3 of them and to quote him, "I'm basically giving them away". He said they are around 15K. So they are not street legal and only go 55mph? Or did it catch the tail end of this conversation? Dude... I like these things.
 

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I just called a dealership near me. The guy said he has 3 of them and to quote him, "I'm basically giving them away". He said they are around 15K. So they are not street legal and only go 55mph? Or did it catch the tail end of this conversation? Dude... I like these things.
That's correct not street legal, and governed at about 55. But some states allow side by sides on non federal roads, and governors can be adjusted or removed..... So use that information in your consideration.
 

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Dude that thing is an original CJ. Who knew they were still being made.
 

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Fiat Chrysler wins Jeep trade case against Mahindra

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June 12, 2020

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles won its bid for an order to block U.S. imports of Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd.’s Roxor off-road vehicle and components that it said copies the look of its iconic Jeep Wrangler.

The International Trade Commission said in a notice posted to its website that it upheld, with modifications, a judge’s finding that Mahindra’s off-road vehicle is a copy of the Jeep. The Trump administration can veto the ban on public policy grounds, though that rarely happens.

Fiat Chrysler claimed that the Roxor is a “nearly identical copy” of its Jeep, particularly the “boxy body shape with flat-appearing vertical sides and rear body ending at about the same height as the hood.”

Trade Judge Cameron Elliot in November found that the Roxor would infringe the trade dress of the Jeep as defined by six specific design elements, but not the registered trademarks for the Jeep’s front grille. He recommended that the commission block imports of the Roxor kits and components, saying Mahindra is purposefully trying to evoke the Jeep image, which would erode the value of the Wrangler.

Both sides asked the commission to review the portion of the decision they lost.

Mahindra, India’s largest maker of sport utility vehicles, makes the components in India and the Roxor is assembled at a plant in Michigan. It’s already hurting from a slowdown in India’s market for cars and trucks and reported no domestic sales in April because of the coronavirus pandemic. The U.S. market, the most popular in the world for off-road vehicles, could help it weather the pandemic.

Mahindra said in a statement on Friday that the vehicle subject to the ITC action is no longer in production and the 2020 design was refreshed.

"The company and Mahindra Automotive North America ... remain resolute in its position that the Roxor does not dilute or violate Jeep's trade dress," Mahindra said, adding it was weighing options with respect to an appeal during the review period or in federal appeals court.

In January, Mahindra said its 2020 Roxor model had “significant styling changes” and it would “make additional styling changes, if so required, in cooperation with the ITC.” The 2020 vehicle, dubbed “The Beast,” starts at $16,599, according to Mahindra’s website.

In a filing with the commission, Mahindra said its new models aren’t in violation, and that Fiat Chrysler is trying to grab “a practical monopoly over the import and sale of components used in any boxy, open-topped, military-style vehicle.”

FCA said in a statement it was pleased with the decision and that the Italian-American automaker reserved further comment while it studied the ruling.

Fiat Chrysler said that Mahindra plans to “design right up to the line of infringement,” and said any question of whether the newer models should be allowed in the U.S. can be decided later.

While COVID-19 has slowed the $12.2 billion market for off-road vehicles this year, it’s expected to rebound next year, with the biggest growth in North America, according to analysts at Stratview Research. The U.S. accounted for more than 60 percent of global off-road vehicle sales in 2018, the report said.

The case is In the Matter of Certain Motorized Vehicles and Components Thereof, 337-1132, U.S. International Trade Commission (Washington).
The whole Chinese economy is based on stolen patents and the Indians it seems are not too far behind.
 

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It's a total jeep and I love it! Some parts cross fit on my CJ and it's street legal. I get the jeep wave and people asking me if its a CJ-7. The diesel rocks. Grab one while you can.
I wouldn't even consider riding in one of those Commie Chow Chow Jeeps.
 
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