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Jeep absolutely need to do this. Least in US,

Ford has partnered w/Tesla to have an adapter for use with their EV’s at Tesla chargers. The bigger news, Ford will ditch the CCS standard and switch to the Tesla connector in their vehicles in 2025. So no adapter needed and just use Tesla chargers.

This is a brilliant move. While a big advantage of BEV is charging overnight at home, some people do regular road trips. And right now, today, in the US, the most reliable and dependable network is the Tesla SC network.

The Wrangler needs to do the same.

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Let the free market decide. Not the Government or the Manufacturers who are merely doing what they are "advised to do". Choices are good, mandates (by those with an agenda) are not.

If you don't see what is really going on here, then you are not paying attention.

Just my .02. Keep the change.
 
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Let the free market decide. Not the Government or the Manufacturers who are merely doing what they are "advised to do". Choices are good, mandates (by those with an agenda) are not.

If you don't see what is really going on here, then you are not paying attention.

Just my .02. Keep the change.
There Is no federal mandate. And even the handful of states that do, it’s not till 2035 (a lot can happen in 12 years) AND only applies to new car sales in the states. Not to used. Not those bought out of states.

Besides, we r now, today ”mandating” against certain vehicles (mostly EV’s). I live in Texas. So despite the state giving a ton of tax credits to Tesla to build here, I can’t buy a Tesla in Texas. It’s against the law. Nor could I buy a Rivian or a Licid. It’s illegal to sell them in Texas (and many other states). It’s illegal in Texas (and other states) to sell vehicles direct.

If you’re against “mandates” to help EV sales, I’m assuming ur also against “mandates” that force me to buy from a dealership. Shouldn’t the market decide?

We mandate all sorts of things. Seatbelts, crumple zones, insurance, licensing, registration.
 

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I go to Vegas many times a year. Two trips ago I had my Wrangler to do some light trails with the top down. Anyway, was parking in the hotel garage and every level had EV chargers. Several in use.

I live in Dallas. Recently made the drive from Dallas to the Woodlands (suburb north of Houston for a concert.. Being in Texas, I’m required by law to stop at Buc-ee’s for over priced beef jerky and a picture with a giant cartoon beaver. I noticed they had Tesla chargers around back. They is a perfect “road trip“ stop. You are going to go in for that jerky, shop, maybe even eat.
So funny you mention Bucees, next Friday we're dropping a video where we rank some of the best Bucees snacks. Pretty excited. Got any food suggestions we should try?
 

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The potential devastation of an EV battery catching fire (not common but definitely not unheard of) on a remote trail is terrifying imo...
 

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So funny you mention Bucees, next Friday we're dropping a video where we rank some of the best Bucees snacks. Pretty excited. Got any food suggestions we should try?
Well the jerky is a big dea. If u like the style (flavorful, but dry as opposed to chewy). But really, u might as well buy a sample of a bunch of their Snacks. They got so many.
 

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The potential devastation of an EV battery catching fire (not common but definitely not unheard of) on a remote trail is terrifying imo...
Do you really think it would be worse than an ICE? I mean, if it spreads, it spreads.
 

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The potential devastation of an EV battery catching fire (not common but definitely not unheard of) on a remote trail is terrifying imo...
You have a significantly greater chance of the manual transmission Wranglers catching on fire than an EV catching on fire.
 

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Do you really think it would be worse than an ICE? I mean, if it spreads, it spreads.
It takes 5 times the amount of water to extinguish an EV fire and the temperature is 6-10k degrees vs ~1600 degrees. The battery can act like an arc welder…
 

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Do you really think it would be worse than an ICE? I mean, if it spreads, it spreads.
Actually, ICE fires are much easier to extinguish and easier to manage. The issue is getting it out, before it spreads. And with that said, you'd have a much better chance of extinguishing/containing a fire with an ICE powered vehicle.

That's just my opinion, based on decades of experience.
 

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It takes 5 times the amount of water to extinguish an EV fire and the temperature is 6-10k degrees vs ~1600 degrees. The battery can act like an arc welder…
Exactly.
 

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The potential devastation of an EV battery catching fire (not common but definitely not unheard of) on a remote trail is terrifying imo...

There were an estimated 170,000 vehicle fires in 2022 in the USA.

50 of those were EVs.

Fifty.

Now let’s look at averaged rates.

There are about 1500 fires per 100,000 units in gas cars.

EVs are 25 per 100,000 units.

People really are afraid of what they don’t understand.
 

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Actually, ICE fires are much easier to extinguish and easier to manage. The issue is getting it out, before it spreads. And with that said, you'd have a much better chance of extinguishing/containing a fire with an ICE powered vehicle.

That's just my opinion, based on decades of experience.
The way I took his statement wasn’t about the vehicle. He specifically said trails worried him. Thus I took it as a vehicle fire starting a forest fire. Which any fire could do. Not just from the incredibly rare EV fire. My point, once it spreads it makes no difference the source.

Now if ur argument is ur more likely to stop an ICE fire before it spreads, then an EV fire, its certainly possible. But is it real? Maybe u can’t put out an EV fire with a couple fire extinguishers, but r we sure we can a ICE? And u might keep it from spreading using a couple fire extinguishers (perhaps) no matter type of vehicle. Do u have stats on that? I mean are there even stats that show how often any vehicle fire starts a forest fire?

This seems like a weird discussion. We know ICE vehicles catch fire at significantly higher rates. Not sure why it’s now an issue to take vehicles on trails.
 

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It takes 5 times the amount of water to extinguish an EV fire and the temperature is 6-10k degrees vs ~1600 degrees. The battery can act like an arc welder…
So there is pressurized water (fire hydrant) on trails you go on? And they have enough water to put out an ICE fire but not enough as an EV fire? I’ve never seen that before. tho admittedly I don’t do hard core stuff. Mostly light/medium trails and a bit overlanding.

Certainly new to me.
 

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The potential devastation of an EV battery catching fire (not common but definitely not unheard of) on a remote trail is terrifying imo...
Good thing gas isn't flammable... once your vehicle starts a forest fire in a remote location your fire extinguisher isn't doing anything. ICE vehicles are far more likely to catch fire. The battery poses a fire fighting problem where a fire department has access, on the trail it's a ridiculous argument.
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