Colorado ZR2 Will Be The JT Rubicon's Main Comp

[The Great Grape Ape]

The Colorado is automatic-only, so it isn't even a consideration for me. If I'm replacing the Silverado, it is going to have a manual transmission, which is why I have an eye on the JT.

Why not the RAM 2500HD Off-Road ? You can get that as a manual 6-speed and with either a Hemi or Diesel, short-box, long-box, short or full-cab.. Not as off-road worthy as a Power Wagon and perhaps JT, but moreso than the Silverado, and can be configured with the manual transission and diesel the PW can't, and can tow more too if that's your thing, and if you avoid the luxury features (every truck now has a Platinum, Limited, BigHorn-TinyWang option) it can be similarly priced.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-...0-4x4-off-road-package-power-wagon-and-rebel/

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[Vegas_Sirk]

Why not the RAM 2500HD Off-Road ? You can get that as a manual 6-speed and with either a Hemi or Diesel, short-box, long-box, short or full-cab.. Not as off-road worthy as a Power Wagon and perhaps JT, but moreso than the Silverado, and can be configured with the manual transission and diesel the PW can't, and can tow more too if that's your thing, and if you avoid the luxury features (every truck now has a Platinum, Limited, BigHorn-TinyWang option) it can be similarly priced.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-...0-4x4-off-road-package-power-wagon-and-rebel/

Yea AEV makes a kit for the 2500 where you can run 37s or 40s with a 3" lift.

This is personally on my radar. If the JT doesn't pan out as expected I'll most likely be going in this direction.

 

[digitalbliss]

Yea AEV makes a kit for the 2500 where you can run 37s or 40s with a 3" lift.

This is personally on my radar. If the JT doesn't pan out as expected I'll most likely be going in this direction.

Nice, but what's the price point?

 

[The Great Grape Ape]

Nice, but what's the price point?

I believe instead of MSRP it's listed as... AEV.
And we know what that means.

 

[digitalbliss]

I believe instead of MSRP it's listed as... AEV.
And we know what that means.

So basically two JLU's for the price of one of these.

 

[The Great Grape Ape]

So basically two JLU's for the price of one of these.

Yep, Exactly.
Or the original Ram HD2500 Off-Road and a separate JKU/JLU for the cottage, for the price of just the AEV.

When I mention how much I want a Hemi Wrangler, and also how much I like AEV & their stuff, and that they are technically a 'local business' , people always ask me why I don't do the mod, I tell them "Yeah, for that price, I could buy a new Mustang GT in addition to my Wrangler... and maybe have enough left over for a SeaDoo... sooo..."

 

[MuhThugga]

Why not the RAM 2500HD Off-Road ? You can get that as a manual 6-speed and with either a Hemi or Diesel, short-box, long-box, short or full-cab.. Not as off-road worthy as a Power Wagon and perhaps JT, but moreso than the Silverado, and can be configured with the manual transission and diesel the PW can't, and can tow more too if that's your thing, and if you avoid the luxury features (every truck now has a Platinum, Limited, BigHorn-TinyWang option) it can be similarly priced.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-...0-4x4-off-road-package-power-wagon-and-rebel/

A few reasons:

• I have no use or need for a 2500 series truck.
• The 2500 doesn't come in a regular cab, short bed configuration.
• The manual transmission is only available with the diesel
  • I'm not particularly fond of diesels
  • It is almost a $10,000 option

I don't care about offroad capabilities. I just want a 4WD truck with a manual trans that allows me to haul things when I need and gets me to work when there is a foot of snow on the ground as my job requires. GM and Ford offer absolutely nothing, Nissan's Frontier is a billion years old, and the Tacoma is one giant yawn. The JT is the only thing that has my interest piqued right now. The only thing that would win over the JT is if they released a Ram 1500 with the Hemi and a 6 speed manual, but we know that won't happen because this country hates shifting gears.

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

Yep, Exactly.
Or the original Ram HD2500 Off-Road and a separate JKU/JLU for the cottage, for the price of just the AEV.

When I mention how much I want a Hemi Wrangler, and also how much I like AEV & their stuff, and that they are technically a 'local business' , people always ask me why I don't do the mod, I tell them "Yeah, for that price, I could buy a new Mustang GT in addition to my Wrangler... and maybe have enough left over for a SeaDoo... sooo..."

Yes and no. Its not two Rubicons. Also the HD trucks have a TON of incentives on them. You can get up to 15K off MSRP. I built a Larmie crew cab 4wd diesel for $67,000 and saw with incentives and discounts that Dennis Dillon here in Idaho would sell it for around $50K add in the $10K for the AEV Prospector Package (not the Prospector XL) and I'm at $60K which is the same price a Ford 250 or Chevy 2500 diesel sells for after incentives similarly equipped.

Also with it being an AEV vehicle, it will have sold resale value, so your overall cost of ownership isn't bad.

I figure if I buy a JTUR it will be around $40K after incentives, then I'll have at least $10-15K more in lift, tires, wheels, roof rack, bumpers front and rear, so the price difference isn't all the much different when it all plays out.

The only thing holding me back on the 2500 is that some of the tech on it is dated. No LED head lights and tail lights, and in 2020 (with a good chance of 2019 sales date) the new 2500, and 3500 will be out. So I hate to be with an outdated body style right away.

 

[The Great Grape Ape]

No I wouldn't say two Rubis, but something pedestrian as the second one... similar to my second one. JK with manual doors/windows/trans, and just hardtop, 17" upgrade, EVIC, and 430 headunit (moded for rear cam to not run-over cottage kids & pets and eithers' toys). That's about the price difference.
And the difference for the Hemi upgrade in a Wrangler unfortunately is a Mustang GT+, although selling your used Pentastar and bits can recoup some, so might drop you down to Mustang EcoBoost.

As for the 2500HD , hopefully the aging bits get the required refresh with the overall RAM update next year. I've seen a lot of camo shots of that recently too, but unlike the JL, I haven't seen any interior shots of the RAM yet. Hoping they do a good job, as it does seem that they usually are the ones leading the style side, and are fast-followers of Ford on the tech/feature side.

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

No I wouldn't say two Rubis, but something pedestrian as the second one... similar to my second one. JK with manual doors/windows/trans, and just hardtop, 17" upgrade, EVIC, and 430 headunit (moded for rear cam to not run-over cottage kids & pets and eithers' toys). That's about the price difference.
And the difference for the Hemi upgrade in a Wrangler unfortunately is a Mustang GT+, although selling your used Pentastar and bits can recoup some, so might drop you down to Mustang EcoBoost.

As for the 2500HD , hopefully the aging bits get the required refresh with the overall RAM update next year. I've seen a lot of camo shots of that recently too, but unlike the JL, I haven't seen any interior shots of the RAM yet. Hoping they do a good job, as it does seem that they usually are the ones leading the style side, and are fast-followers of Ford on the tech/feature side.

Yea I have seen some of the spy stuff on the 1500 but nothing on the 2500. I was hoping for 2018 they would LEDs like they did to the Wrangler for 2017, but so far I haven't been able to find any info on updates for 2018 for the HDs. The 2019 1500 will be revealed at Detroit in Jan, but will then be on sale by summer which will make it a short 2018 year. I'm thinking they will do the same with the HDs in 2019

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