I can imagine. My Jeep sand dune jumping days are over. I've broken engine & transmission mounts, shocks, springs and lost my rear driveshaft. The worst part is driving home in FWD, a pop bottle and duct tape holding the transfer case fluid in, horrible death-wobble, and the engine and transmission loosely connected to the Jeep.I like you profile photo. It reminds me of a photo of my son at Oceano Dunes (Pismo). All I can say is that was a costly day...
Sounds like my old YJ., horrible death-wobble, and the engine and transmission loosely connected to the Jeep.
This happened while flat towing back home...I can imagine. My Jeep sand dune jumping days are over. I've broken engine & transmission mounts, shocks, springs and lost my rear driveshaft. The worst part is driving home in FWD, a pop bottle and duct tape holding the transfer case fluid in, horrible death-wobble, and the engine and transmission loosely connected to the Jeep.
Kinda get where he's coming from. Since FCA has not addressed this well, they could use a little fish across the face slap to maybe get them to take notice. They've ticked people off with the band-aids slapped over a poor design.Yeah, be a smartass to customer service. That will get you somewhere.
Awesome! Looks good!I fixed my “where the hell is my Willys” issue. And fixed my have to regear the 3:45 issue. Picked this up today 17345 miles. 2.5 years more warranty. $31,000. Cold Weather Tow package and a few more goodies!
I jumped a Zuki Samurai many years back and the transmission mount broke, dropping the driveline. Was only a few miles from home and had my brother hold the t-case up in place by the shift lever while I droveThis happened while flat towing back home...
We have no ability to do suchOk question, I have the CF2 installed. What are the chances the dealer can or would willingly remove the detune software patch from the last recall? I would very much like that gone...???
There is absolutely nothing the lady on the phone can do about it. The process has already begun to have engineering develop a proper repair and once approved then the reimbursement can be processed.Kinda get where he's coming from. Since FCA has not addressed this well, they could use a little fish across the face slap to maybe get them to take notice. They've ticked people off with the band-aids slapped over a poor design.
Only thing I could say to add to this is there has been ~50 explosive failures, I've seen many more Techs with pictures of fractured and warped pressure plates, well beyond 50, so you know there is many more then even that, they just get noticed before big boom.I'll get it wrong but will try.
The first recalls (2018--20) focused on the hydraulic system, specifically a concern about bubbles in the lines reducing the ability to retract the clutch plate. This "really happens"; there are YouTube videos showing a 50% or greater drop in hydraulic pressure from small bubbles in the lines. The general idea was that clutches were prematurely wearing because they were slipping during shifts. The fix was first a different hose, then a sleeve on that hose to reduce thermal effects.
The 2020 recall moved toward the clutch itself and was based on general overheating leading to material failure above 900-1100F. The action taken was to stop the cause, namely force a shutdown (limp mode) to avoid a catastrophic failure. Because there is no temperature sensor, a proxy was used: The software determines heating conditions (presumably based on mismatched input and output rpm) and estimates temperature. This "really works" because the numbers are available and this type of materials science is easy.
Despite recalls, clutches and/or pressure plates have continued to fail. Near 50, with one reported injury. The number of warranty repairs not showing up as nhtsa complaints is unknown. Anecdotally, people have reported 90k+ miles on the factory clutch, and others fail under 10k. The worst failure mode is around 50 out of 50-100k vehicles, one per thousand. Catastrophic, where material ejects through the bell housing and clips a fuel line, maybe a tenth of that.
Reported failures seem correlated with towing, highway speeds, and normal on-road driving conditions. The software has reportedly entered limp mode in some 4L/off-road scenarios and self resolved by letting the vehicle cool a while.
There has been no public notification of manufacturer-official root cause. Comments you see are speculation, as is any comment about the repair. Note that at least one aftermarket clutch also replaces the hydraulics. Mid April is the expected date for an announcement from Stellantis.
Yes, but they can pass along the frustration up the chain, and since it was typed, they have something to show up the chain also.There is absolutely nothing the lady on the phone can do about it. The process has already begun to have engineering develop a proper repair and once approved then the reimbursement can be processed.
Please, please, please post a review if you go that route. @Actman, do you have any review videos? Saw the install one and it is absolutely fantastic.I'm going to wait to see what the Jeep fix is, but I'm guessing I'll be disappointed with what Jeep comes up with and will most likely be buying an ACT clutch.
Thanks for the props. No review videos yet. As I have said somewhere (not sure what thread), the best thing I can say about driving with our clutch is you find yourself not thinking about the clutch.Please, please, please post a review if you go that route. @Actman, do you have any review videos? Saw the install one and it is absolutely fantastic.
I'm also interested in learning more. Some sort of video would be helpful. My JL is my first manual car and all I know is from internet searches ACT seems to have a longstanding good reputation in the usual clutch car (Honda, Subaru, etc.) crowd, but I know nothing about shopping for aftermarket clutches and I would be interested in a comparison between Centerforce and ACT to understand the different approaches. I like that the ACT clutch doesn't replace the hydraulics. I wonder why Centerforce needs to replace the hydraulics.Thanks for the props. No review videos yet. As I have said somewhere (not sure what thread), the best thing I can say about driving with our clutch is you find yourself not thinking about the clutch.