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So, I've got a '21 that's outside of the recall windows. Other than the one time I received the warning message for clutch overheated (again - it was warranted I was doing a poor job of turning around on a trail in 4L). Is there anything in particular to be on the lookout for?
Surprisingly, Stellantis simply integrated the Y-7 recall fix, consisting of a software update, at the factory. Your warning message for the clutch overheating is a result of that software update. The gear indicator was thrown in as visual evidence that something was actually done. That’s my understanding anyway, might be wrong.

 

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First, I'm glad to hear the OP's niece and her dog are okay. That's all that really matters! I've owned two other Wranglers besides the 2021 JLU I have now. Both were MT's and went well beyond 150K miles and I never had a problem with the clutch or tranny, in either.
I really wanted the MT when I bought the '21. Took one for an extended test drive and got a feel for the clutch fairly quickly but I just couldn't convince myself to spend close to $50K on a vehicle that has a known, and significant, design deficiency. The AT mated to the 3.6 is a nice combo but a JL/ U really should have a MT.
You were wiser than me. I guess I was so blinded by my desire to have a Jeep with a stick, I said the hell with the clear evidence right in front of me and bought it anyway.
 

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So, I've got a '21 that's outside of the recall windows. Other than the one time I received the warning message for clutch overheated (again - it was warranted I was doing a poor job of turning around on a trail in 4L). Is there anything in particular to be on the lookout for?
When I ordered my '21, Jeep held onto the vehicle for an extra month before shipping to my dealer so that they could install the recall software "fix" before shipping. My Jeep was manufactured in Jan 21. I would imagine that all Jeeps w 6SP manufactured in 21 would have the fix pre-installed.
 

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When I ordered my '21, Jeep held onto the vehicle for an extra month before shipping to my dealer so that they could install the recall software "fix" before shipping. My Jeep was manufactured in Jan 21. I would imagine that all Jeeps w 6SP manufactured in 21 would have the fix pre-installed.
That's my understanding, I asked the reps when I picked up my Jeep and they stated the same thing...
 

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So, I've got a '21 that's outside of the recall windows. Other than the one time I received the warning message for clutch overheated (again - it was warranted I was doing a poor job of turning around on a trail in 4L). Is there anything in particular to be on the lookout for?
I have to ask, did your Jeep perform differently after that message appeared? One of the “benefits” of the Y7 is a reduction in torque, which in theory reduces heat buildup, thus preventing an explosion and/or fire.
 


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When I ordered my '21, Jeep held onto the vehicle for an extra month before shipping to my dealer so that they could install the recall software "fix" before shipping. My Jeep was manufactured in Jan 21. I would imagine that all Jeeps w 6SP manufactured in 21 would have the fix pre-installed.
Yes, you would imagine
 

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I have to ask, did your Jeep perform differently after that message appeared? One of the “benefits” of the Y7 is a reduction on of torque, which in theory reduces heat buildup, thus preventing an explosion and/or fire.
No, it's been the exact same, probably better because that was at about 2500 miles, it seemed like the first 1000-maybe up to 2500 3rd gear was a bit rough, it's smooth as can be now (other than 1st gear being a bit quick).
 

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Got another notice to do my recall today after months of nothing since the last notice. Looks like Jeep is well aware of this thread.
 

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I suspect the clutch grenaded first, undetected, which resulted in the fire which resulted in the loss of hydraulics. If this was due to friction induced over heating, why didn't the just applied recall throttle down the engine as designed?
I think you are correct. I wonder what component failed first - flywheel, disk, pressure plate, or maybe even a bolt sheared of.
 


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I really don’t want an auto either but I’m just afraid of throwing n a centerforce clutch for all that money and then something else goes wrong. I suppose if the hydraulics are to blame that would happen no matter which flywheel is in there
Even if the issue is overheated hydraulic fluid by the exhaust or other, the Centerforce clutch and flywheel are made from billet steel that is much less likely to fragment under the same conditions that cause these cast iron parts to come apart. Some racing associations will not let modified street cars race with cast iron flywheels and also require "scatter shield" bellhousings (thick formed steel).
 

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Although I don't own a manual trans JL, if I did, I'd be worried about losing a foot or two if those parts come thru the thin sheet metal floor. That's why I'm siding with LLRubyLady's decision to not drive her JL any more. It just wouldn't be worth the risk to me.
 

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Although I don't own a manual trans JL, if I did, I'd be worried about losing a foot or two if those parts come thru the thin sheet metal floor. That's why I'm siding with LLRubyLady's decision to not drive her JL any more. It just wouldn't be worth the risk to me.
Damn, seriously? Now I’m starting to actually worry about this situation whereas before, I figured it was limited to the older JLs that were blowing up and even those were extremely rare occurrences. I need to get a beer and ponder this some more……
 

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