Chevy’s Answer to the Ford Bronco and Jeep Wrangler

[Concrete King]

Blazer- Bronco- Mustang- reportedly even suv “Corvettes” coming. Marketing has no Shame.

Chevrolet already did away with the Corvette. They now make a rear engine (or maybe it's rear mid-mounted, I don't know since I don't pay attention to it anymore) car that they named Corvette after killing off the Corvette.

And the Mustang is knocking on death's door with that stupid Mustang SUV/crossover thing whatever the heck it is... that's not a car any longer.

Recycling names obviously fools some people. Quite a lot of people. Some may say to me it's just a name and that my stance is foolish. Ok, if it's just a name tell Chevy and Ford to drop those names from those vehicles that they are no longer. Hmm, I wonder why they didn't do that. Because it's more than just a name.

I'm out on all of GM though after my Yukon XL experience. They wouldn't lemon law it. But that's a whole other conversation.

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[2nd 392]

Chevrolet already did away with the Corvette. They now make a rear engine (or maybe it's rear mid-mounted, I don't know since I don't pay attention to it anymore) car that they named Corvette after killing off the Corvette.

And the Mustang is knocking on death's door with that stupid Mustang SUV/crossover thing whatever the heck it is... that's not a car any longer.

Recycling names obviously fools some people. Quite a lot of people. Some may say to me it's just a name and that my stance is foolish. Ok, if it's just a name tell Chevy and Ford to drop those names from those vehicles that they are no longer. Hmm, I wonder why they didn't do that. Because it's more than just a name.

I'm out on all of GM though after my Yukon XL experience. They wouldn't lemon law it. But that's a whole other conversation.

The govt killed ALL performance monikers in 1972, resurrection began ~25 years later when performance numbers although not good, reached respectability again. Feels like 1970 all over again. — a survivor facing a coming repeat. 75 Corvette had 165hp with a 205hp “performance “ option, my 6cyl 54 had 155hp. 283hp in 57.

 

[MadGerbil]

I hope Chevy puts out a competitive vehicle that takes about 20% of the Wrangler market.
Jeep clearly needs a bit of heat so they knock off silly $1800.00 LED packages.

A good @$$ whooping in the market is about due.

 

[Windshieldfarmer]

I hope Chevy puts out a competitive vehicle that takes about 20% of the Wrangler market.
Jeep clearly needs a bit of heat so they knock off silly $1800.00 LED packages.

A good @$$ whooping in the market is about due.

Absolutely…the value proposition is not there with the wrangler. $800 for a front camera….geez. Too many unresolved issues and way over priced for what it is. That said, sales are still strong….

 

[JINO]

It's obnoxious how badly they're blowing this. It's so damn easy.

Step 1: Stop calling that shitty soccer mom SUV a Blazer. Reclaim that name.
Step 2: Take the current Tahoe body design, shrink it down to fit on the new Colorado base
Step 3: Apply the ZR2 trim package
Step 4: Profit.

They'd sell the shit out of them.

I'd probably interested as well. I'd like to see one in diesel..

 

[smokeythecat]

Your prayers have been answered.

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[Jeepmojave85]

So I actually have a Jackery "generator" and solar panel. It's great for powering my laptop, router, phone, emergency radios, desklight, and other small electronics. For everything else, I have a gas generator. Look up the energy density of gasoline vs lithium batteries (and there is no battery chemistry on the horizon that offers anything but a small incremental improvement over Li-ion). Tesla has better range than other EVs only because they use much larger batteries than almost everyone else (except Lucid, Rivian, and some of the new ultra high end Mercedes). There's no secret special technology, if you want more range you need bigger batteries, and batteries are the heaviest component in an EV. This won't change substantially over the next 5-7 years. Likewise, photovoltaics aren't going to offer a practical charging solution, even ordinary 120 VAC 20A is slow as shit, which is why Tesla superchargers are 480 VDC at 200-300A and still slower than pumping gas.

Yeah, 3 phase 480V is a shit ton of power lol. I’m an electrician and we’re installing them at grocery stores, they require a separate service for the chargers. Small correction though, they’re 3 phase 480VAC input and the output is 300-1000VDC.

 

[Opus]

Five pages in and we're still talking about a drawing... not a prototype, mind you... a drawing. A drawing that any 8th grader with a decent grasp of Vectorworks could have rendered...

 

[MadGerbil]

Five pages in and we're still talking about a drawing... not a prototype, mind you... a drawing. A drawing that any 8th grader with a decent grasp of Vectorworks could have rendered...

I think we in the Jeep community should be terrified.

Placing the spare in the cargo area behind the rear seats is just the kind of innovation this space needs.

 

[MadGerbil]

The Wagon Queen Family Truckster!

I hope it comes with one of those little gold crowns on the dashboard.

 

[jimcoffey62]

That rendering doesn't show the diesel generator on a trailer that will need to be hooked to the back of that new "Blazer".

I carry extra cans of gas when I'm on an extended outback trip. How would I carry extra electricity?

We laugh, but having a generator is actually a great idea. We call that a "hybrid." An electric car that also has an engine. It solves the problem of range very nicely.

Even better than the current hybrid where the generator is permanently attached to the car would be to make the generator removable. Carry it with you only when needed for range.

When I am driving in town I don't need a generator, I save the weight, leave it at home.
For long trips I hitch it up and away we go.
This is actually the design of the highly successful GM EV1 from the 1970's.

My relatives in Europe have a tiny little 4 seater car with zero trunk space. Great gas mileage, and they rarely have anyone in the back seat anyway. When they picked us up at the airport that had a matching trailer to haul our luggage. Kinda like a motorcycle trailer. Fantastic idea. Essentially a removable truck bed for when you need it.

Imagine an electric jeep. Mall crawlers can stop here, have fun, look cool. Hit the beach, etc.
As an option you can buy a trailer that is essentially the truck bed of a Gladiator.
As another option you can buy a generator that fits in said truck bed.
As an option you could have 50 lb hot swap battery packs. Keep a few extra.

Matching tires, no need for an extra spare. Looks cool.
Do all the trailer stuff like roof top tents, haul kayaks, etc.
Park it at the trail head. Go wheeling on electricity.

This is not that different from what we do at remote construction job sites.

Note: the "generator" does not have to be an internal combustion engine. There are fuel cell designs that coupled with a reformer can take gasoline and turn it directly into electricity.

We live in interesting times.

 

[jjvincent]

The Wagon Queen Family Truckster!

Even better in racecar form:

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