California Diesel vs...

[Plongson]

I've finally found a rig that matches my requirements but...it's in California. Are California diesels different from the one I may get elsewhere? I know some states follow California emission standards but is there much difference and is enough to be a deal breaker...I live in Utah and have one on order but probably won't arrive until the next ice age...

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[CAC]

Same everywhere. CA ruined diesels for everyone with their emissions regs...

That said, I drive diesels. I currently have a 2017 Ram 3500 Cummins and Rubicon Ecodiesel. Previous diesels include a 2003, 2007, 2015 Ram 3500's (two were pre-smog) and a 2009 Jetta TDI.

Don't let the naysayers get to you. I've never had an emissions-related issue with any of them.

 

[psdtime]

I agree with CAC, the federal Diesel emission standard is the same as California's, but if I remember correctly, California requires a longer warranty on the emission system components on Diesel motors. I think it is 8 years and 100k miles. Maybe every state gets that. I too have a lengthy list of person Diesel vehicles. 1999 Ford 7.3, 2000 Ford 7.3, 2003 Ford 6.0 (x2), 2007 GMC Duramax, 2012 Ram 3500 6.7, 2015 Ford 6.7 and a 2016 Ram 2500 6.7 and I too have had no emissions related issues on those vehicles however I run a fleet of medium and heavy duty trucks and run exclusively Cummins motors and I can tell you that at lease 90% of all breakdowns or CEL issues in the first 3 years of use are emissions related. Somehow they figure out how to make it work in the light vehicles.

 

[Plongson]

Thanks for your reply! Good information! One big reason I hate purchasing in Cali from out of state is the California tax structure. You pay Cali sales tax and if my state is less, I have to get the difference back...from California...good luck. I've removed California from my search model...

 

[psdtime]

Thanks for your reply! Good information! One big reason I hate purchasing in Cali from out of state is the California tax structure. You pay Cali sales tax and if my state is less, I have to get the difference back...from California...good luck. I've removed California from my search model...

Are you sure about this? When I buy a car, I pay my local sales tax of the address that it is registered too. For example my work has a higher sales tax than where my house is (8 miles away), if I buy a vehicle for work I have to pay the higher taxes then I would for a vehicle I buy personally and register at home. I once bought a quad new from out of state and had to pay local taxes at the DMV on it since no sales taxes were collected. I would assume that it is the same if the purchase went the other direction. That being said, California doesn't really have the reputation of getting a good deal on vehicles. Los Angles area is OK, but the Bay Area is terrible.

 

[Plongson]

Only from what I've been told...I should probably call a dealer.

 

[Plongson]

Well... Called a dealer and out of state residents pay California sales tax, get a permit for $160 to transport only good for 24 hrs. When you get to your home state you register only...You pay sales tax just one...My state is 6.2% Cali is 7.4%

 

[psdtime]

They always find a way in Cali to make you pay more than you should!

 

[CAC]

Well... Called a dealer and out of state residents pay California sales tax, get a permit for $160 to transport only good for 24 hrs. When you get to your home state you register only...You pay sales tax just one...My state is 6.2% Cali is 7.4%

Wow, that's low for CA. The county I lived in last was 9.75%. Chicago Illinois is the worst. Sales tax is over 10%.

 

[psdtime]

Wow, that's low for CA. The county I lived in last was 9.75%. Chicago Illinois is the worst. Sales tax is over 10%.

Yeah, that must me the default amount if you don't register to a California address. I'm at 8.75 and my work is at 9.125 for sales tax. Property is like 1.2%/year. I need to move!

 

[UTES]

They always find a way in Cali to make you pay more than you should!

I experienced a financial problem when I bought a car in Utah and then moved to California.

When I tried to register the vehicle in California, the license staff there demanded I pay the additional tax California required. If I had known that, I would have simply not re-registered it. Yeah, if caught you can be fined, but I would now risk it.

Hunter

 

[psdtime]

I experienced a financial problem when I bought a car in Utah and then moved to California.

When I tried to register the vehicle in California, the license staff there demanded I pay the additional tax California required. If I had known that, I would have simply not re-registered it. Yeah, if caught you can be fined, but I would now risk it.

Hunter

It's funny because I have a car in Arizona that is registered in California and has been there for the last six years. I have been able to write a letter stating that it is out of state and cannot smog it this whole time. California has no problem doing that as long as they get the registration money.

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