California “shuts down”

[Dkretden]

Can a California resident tell me what that means?

am I understanding that everyone is to ‘stay at home’ and Only “essential” businesses can operate? What are they?

specifically, I am look for things like:

1) internet fulfillment warehouses. Are they “essential”?
2) over the road truck drivers delivering freight and can that freight be received at businesses?
3) local drivers UPS/Fedex etc. can they pickup and deliver?
4) gas stations
5) maintenance bays at car dealerships or other maintenance bays — say a 4x4 shop?
6).plumbers on construction sites or, for that matter, construction workers of any kind building a building or road?
7) what about moving companies..... somebody is trying to exit a house that was sold and the new owner coming in. Can the moving companies move folks?

And, for those of you now being told to “stay home” and not go to work (I.e. maybe not get paid), how were you notified? Did your boss just call you and say: the State required us to close, we’ll call you when we are back open?”

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[oceanblue2019]

Can a California resident tell me what that means?

Only “essential” businesses can operate. What are they?

specifically, I am look for things like:

1) internet fulfillment warehouses. Are they “essential”?
2) over the road truck drivers delivering freight and can that freight be received at businesses?
3) local drivers UPS/Fedex etc. can they pickup and deliver?
4) gas stations
5) maintenance bays at car dealerships or other maintenance bays — say a 4x4 shop?
6).plumbers on construction sites or, for that matter, construction workers of any kind building a building or road?
7) what about moving companies..... somebody is trying to exit a house that was sold and the new owner coming in. Can the moving companies move folks?

And, for those of you now being told to “stay home” and not go to work (I.e. maybe not get paid), how were you notified? Did your boss just call you and say: the State required us to close, we’ll call you when we are back open?”

Google for shelter in place - this is what they've declared for citizens. It will reach a point that only groceries and pharmacies are open; but currently some of the other "big box stores" are open such as HomeDepot, etc. Perhaps those will stay open as considered essential. Hours are limited currently.

In Maryland the governor made the announcement and it went out on all local news as well as the all-Maryland autodialer.

Amazon has announced it stops processing intake of non-essential goods, but will continue to ship while they have stock. After that it's essential goods only.

Many groceries are now only doing curb-side pickup or drop offs - nobody allowed in except limited staff.

The below is from wikipedia:

During an epidemic or pandemic with an infectious agent posing significant risk of death or severe illness, authorities may recommend "Shelter in Place" for the general population or for segments of the population at high-risk. Unlike other "Shelter in Place" incidents, recommendations may only be for particular at-risk populations (e.g., the elderly, the immunocompromised) and the recommended duration may be for an extended period of time (days, weeks or months). Shelter in Place may be implemented as a strategy for suppressing or mitigating an epidemic, for reducing numbers of critically ill patients presenting at the same time and for thus reducing the impact of critical illness on health care systems and reducing the likelihood that a surge in illness will overwhelm critical care resources. Shelter in Place may apply specifically to individuals or groups judged to be at-risk for death or serious complications if infected, and contrasts with Self-Isolation (voluntarily seclusion at home to prevent infecting others) and Quarantine (voluntary or involuntary seclusion of individuals exposed to infection for a period to determine infection status). Shelter in Place over extended periods in epidemics may involve significant logistical considerations including measures to safely provide food, medication and other supplies over time as well as arrangements for social and psychological support.

 

[Martindfletcher]

Google for shelter in place - this is what they've declared for citizens. It will reach a point that only groceries and pharmacies are open; but currently some of the other "big box stores" are open such as HomeDepot, etc. Perhaps those will stay open as considered essential. Hours are limited currently.

In Maryland the governor made the announcement and it went out on all local news as well as the all-Maryland autodialer.

Amazon has announced it stops processing intake of non-essential goods, but will continue to ship while they have stock. After that it's essential goods only.

Many groceries are now only doing curb-side pickup or drop offs - nobody allowed in except limited staff.

The below is from wikipedia:

During an epidemic or pandemic with an infectious agent posing significant risk of death or severe illness, authorities may recommend "Shelter in Place" for the general population or for segments of the population at high-risk. Unlike other "Shelter in Place" incidents, recommendations may only be for particular at-risk populations (e.g., the elderly, the immunocompromised) and the recommended duration may be for an extended period of time (days, weeks or months). Shelter in Place may be implemented as a strategy for suppressing or mitigating an epidemic, for reducing numbers of critically ill patients presenting at the same time and for thus reducing the impact of critical illness on health care systems and reducing the likelihood that a surge in illness will overwhelm critical care resources. Shelter in Place may apply specifically to individuals or groups judged to be at-risk for death or serious complications if infected, and contrasts with Self-Isolation (voluntarily seclusion at home to prevent infecting others) and Quarantine (voluntary or involuntary seclusion of individuals exposed to infection for a period to determine infection status). Shelter in Place over extended periods in epidemics may involve significant logistical considerations including measures to safely provide food, medication and other supplies over time as well as arrangements for social and psychological support.

Glad I was was at the store buying beer, wine and champagne while this was going on.

 

[oceanblue2019]

Glad I was was at the store buying beer, wine and champagne while this was going on.

Here in MD restaurants, bars, clubs, etc, were ordered to close Monday at 5pm. I was out Monday night for beers and wings with a bunch of friends as most places still opened. But now things are mostly closed.

Not sure what happens if you don't close - if they even both to check and hand out fines.

What also was interesting is "shelter in place" you are still allowed to enjoy outdoor facilities like state parks, walk your pets, etc, etc. Just stay 2m apart while doing it.

 

[Dkretden]

So, the state wants all these workers to stay home.
so, no payroll tax revenue
And, when they stay home they also can’t shop.
So, no sales tax revenue.

I have no idea how the muni bonds get paid in a state that is already essentially bankrupt (or any other State for that matter). Pension funding? Good luck. Cuts coming?

 

[Thinman]

Can a California resident tell me what that means?

am I understanding that everyone is to ‘stay at home’ and Only “essential” businesses can operate? What are they?

specifically, I am look for things like:

1) internet fulfillment warehouses. Are they “essential”?
2) over the road truck drivers delivering freight and can that freight be received at businesses?
3) local drivers UPS/Fedex etc. can they pickup and deliver?
4) gas stations
5) maintenance bays at car dealerships or other maintenance bays — say a 4x4 shop?
6).plumbers on construction sites or, for that matter, construction workers of any kind building a building or road?
7) what about moving companies..... somebody is trying to exit a house that was sold and the new owner coming in. Can the moving companies move folks?

And, for those of you now being told to “stay home” and not go to work (I.e. maybe not get paid), how were you notified? Did your boss just call you and say: the State required us to close, we’ll call you when we are back open?”

1) fulfillment centers are open. We've (bay area) been on SIP since Monday and personally since mid last week. Online orders for food and stuff were normal up until Monday night but right now if I try to order fresh items from Whole Foods or Safeway, no delivery dates are available (system only schedules 2-3 days out)

2) Yes

3) Yes

4) Open

5) Open

6) Not sure, probably depends on the union?

7) Open / Yes

Work sent out an email Friday notifying everyone to work at home until 4/4, prior to the SIP place order which has since superseded.

Best advice if you have food delivery is to order stuff. Now. (not because of product shortages....because of delivery driver shortages until they ramp up)

 

[Thinman]

relevant portion from our local order:

For the purposes of this Order, "Essential Businesses" means:
Healthcare Operations and Essential Infrastructure;
Grocery stores, certified farmers' markets,  farm and produce stands, supermarkets, food banks,  convenience  stores,  and  other  establishments engaged in the retail sale of canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supply, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products (such as cleaning and  personal  care  products).  This  includes  stores that sell groceries and also sell other non-grocery products, and  products necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences;
Food cultivation, including farming, livestock, and fishing;
Businesses that provide food, shelter, and social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals;
Newspapers, television, radio, and other media services;
Gas stations and auto-supply, auto-repair, and related facilities;
Banks and related financial institutions;
Hardware stores;
Plumbers, electricians, exterminators, and other service providers who provide services that are necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences, Essential Activities, and Essential Businesses;
Businesses providing mailing and shipping services, including post office boxes;
Educational institutions-including public and private K-12 schools, colleges, and universities-for purposes of facilitating distance learning or performing essential functions, provided that social distancing of six-feet per person is maintained to the greatest extent possible;
Laundromats, drycleaners, and laundry service providers;
Restaurants and other facilities that prepare and serve food, but only for delivery or carry out. Schools and other entities that typically provide free food services to students or members of the public may continue to do so under this Order on the condition that the food is provided to students or members of the public on a pick-up and take-away basis only. Schools and other entities that provide food services under this exemption shall not permit the food to be eaten at the site where it is provided, or at any other gathering site;
Businesses that supply products needed for people to work from home;
Businesses that supply other essential businesses with the support or supplies necessary to operate;
Businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food, goods or services directly to residences;
Airlines, taxis, and other private transportation providers providing transportation services necessary for Essential Activities and other purposes expressly authorized in this Order;
Home-based care for seniors, adults, or children;
Residential facilities and shelters for seniors, adults, and children;
Professional services, such as legal or accounting services, when necessary to assist in compliance with legally mandated activities;
Childcare facilities providing services that enable employees exempted in this Order to work as permitted. To the extent possible, childcare facilities must operate under the following mandatory conditions:
Childcare must be carried out in stable groups of 12 or fewer ("stable" means that the same 12 or fewer children are in the same group each day).
Children shall not change from one group to another.
If more than one group of children is cared for at one facility, each group shall be in a separate Groups shall not mix with each other.
Childcare providers shall remain solely with one group of children.
For the purposes of this Order, "Minimum Basic Operations" include the following, provided that employees comply with Social Distancing Requirements as defined this Section, to the extent possible, while carrying out such operations:
The minimum necessary activities to maintain the value of the business's inventory, ensure security, process payroll and employee benefits, or for related functions.
The minimum necessary activities to facilitate employees of the business being able to continue to work remotely from their residences.

 

[Goin2drt]

Kalifornia is a shit show. Notices go out, few hours later they get redacted, some not heeding the warning because “it doesn’t apply to them”, homeless commandeering hotel (has nothing to do with CV19 just the governor pushing his homeless agenda” and the list goes on and on.

Here is KY the folks are calm. Governor comes on live TV everyday at 5 and talks the facts. Keeping everyone calm, shares all the pertinent info and sites and numbers to get assistance, shares ways to help parents with kids at home etc etc. Amazing. He isn’t pushing his political agenda, doesn’t talk partisan BS, nothing. Just a smart human leading the state.

 

[jakebrake]

well, the fucktard in Pennsylvania just did the same thing. "all non-life giving businesses" does it affect the shitty furniture company his daddy gave him?

 

[Dkretden]

1) fulfillment centers are open. We've (bay area) been on SIP since Monday and personally since mid last week. Online orders for food and stuff were normal up until Monday night but right now if I try to order fresh items from Whole Foods or Safeway, no delivery dates are available (system only schedules 2-3 days out)

2) Yes

3) Yes

4) Open

5) Open

6) Not sure, probably depends on the union?

7) Open / Yes

Work sent out an email Friday notifying everyone to work at home until 4/4, prior to the SIP place order which has since superseded.

Best advice if you have food delivery is to order stuff. Now. (not because of product shortages....because of delivery driver shortages until they ramp up)

Thank you for this information.

 

[oceanblue2019]

Thank you for this information.

Just got input from a brother-in-law in construction that most sites in California are/will be shutting down. The only construction that will continue is critical infrastructure - but that will happen with additional restrictions.

 

[cosine]

i work for the postal serviceso they will be running as normal. ups. fed ex should be running normal.

here in ny all non essentials businesses will be close as of this sunday. schools been shut down for the last 2 weeks.

grocery stores, gas stations, banks, hospitals will be open.

 

[TRZ]

Los Angels alone has 150,000 homeless who can’t shelter in place or wash their hands 20 times a day. How does California hope to get a handle on this if a significant portion of its population can’t obey the rules? Same goes for any state that has a significant homeless population. Will the SIP remain in effect until after the homeless population has been ravaged and no longer a threat of infecting the general population?

 

[TJ2018]

Just got input from a brother-in-law in construction that most sites in California are/will be shutting down. The only construction that will continue is critical infrastructure - but that will happen with additional restrictions.

Not what we're hearing. Construction, including housing and other development, are being allowed to continue. Our company services the building trades and we have not heard of any contractors stopping construction on any projects. Yet. Of course the situation is still fluid and folks are trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

EDIT: Plumbers, pest control, etc. are all considered critical and are continuing operations.

 

[oceanblue2019]

Not what we're hearing. Construction, including housing and other development, are being allowed to continue. Our company services the building trades and we have not heard of any contractors stopping construction on any projects. Yet. Of course the situation is still fluid and folks are trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

EDIT: Plumbers, pest control, etc. are all considered critical and are continuing operations.

I spoke to him tonight to see how he and family was doing and he stated again all shut down. Are you in the Bay Area or somewhere else in CA?

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