Bronco vs Jeep Wrangler mega thread

With the Bronco launch, what team are you in?

  • I will stay with team Jeep

    Votes: 708 61.1%
  • I may jump to Team Ford

    Votes: 236 20.4%
  • I am staying out of this one for now. (in Eric Cartman’s voice): Screw you guys, I am going home.

    Votes: 110 9.5%
  • Is “both” an option because I am loaded and can afford both?

    Votes: 105 9.1%

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Cartage1

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Had a few Broncos (73 (bad ass), 78 (behemoth), 94 (Ed Bauer), and am impressed with Ford designing toward the old bobtail version. Cool truck, but hopefully a bit of pressure on Jeep to stay active. Love the body mounted mirrors, and the doors look cool at first blush. Just hope it isn't a plastic-mobile for the sake of competition. Had a FJ Cruiser that was amazingly reliable, but never really challenged anyone as it wasn't a Wrangler, it wasn't a Grand Cherokee, it wasn't an old school FJ.., it was just kind of...., under powered and under marketed.....

Liked my old Bronco's, still wish I had the 73, but also love our two Rubicons...

Happy for Ford, I hope it is solid, well powered, and well supported.

Maybe a nice V-8 is in order for all of us : )
 

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Thing is, Bronco production is scheduled to start in April 2021. Even if you get your reservation today, by the time the first Broncos hit dealer showrooms, you navigate through dealer markups and fight it out with richer buyers, you are unlikely to get your Bronco before a year from now.

That Wrangler 392 has better chances of hitting dealer showroom sooner.

You keep saying this, but I think you are mistaken. Production starts end of this year and April 2021 is when it will be available in dealer showrooms. If I'm not mistaken.
 

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If Jeep would wise up just a bit.....they would offer a Rubi with 35" tires ( and a NO RUB suspension) put some decent skid plates and sliders on it......and a few other nice tricks. These things would not need to cost them that much.

Instead, they make everyone go to the aftermarket for these things that could be original equipment......and expect folks to swallow this chit. When I bought my Rubi....I knew I was going to spend another $10 k in aftermarket chit to get it up to desired standards of these times. Just ridiculous. OH.....and then they had to piss me off with some bogus price increases on metallic paint?? Not good biz practices.

As said......they don't listen well. Still.....I think many folks are a bit rabid right now.......and some level of sense will return. It's a tough line to walk.....if you want to make a decent profit in the auto biz. That 2 door Bronco is not especially cheap when "properly equipped."
 

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You keep saying this, but I think you are mistaken. Production starts end of this year and April 2021 is when it will be available in dealer showrooms. If I'm not mistaken.
The Ford webiste has a note under every photo that says Mid-2021 availability. I would be surprised if they are at dealerships in April. The "sport" version will be available much earlier though.
 

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You keep saying this, but I think you are mistaken. Production starts end of this year and April 2021 is when it will be available in dealer showrooms. If I'm not mistaken.
You are mistaken. The reviews online speak of an April 2021 production start.
 

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I wonder how easy or difficult it will be to lift the new Bronco.

The most common complaint on Toyota Tacoma forums, besides the atrocious automatic transmission and driving position that is, was from owners struggling with front alignment issues after lifting their trucks.

It appears something about IFS makes lifting those trucks a bit tricky. I don’t know if this is something unique to Tacomas or common on all IFS trucks.

Definitely worth looking into before dropping several grand on a new Bronco that then becomes difficult to modify.
A little harder than a Jeep, it really comes down to aligning the angle of the cv joints by dropping the transfer case in most instances.

the A arms look large enough and someone will come out with offset upper control arms to provide more flex if ford performance parts hasn’t already.
 

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If Jeep would wise up just a bit.....they would offer a Rubi with 35" tires ( and a NO RUB suspension) put some decent skid plates and sliders on it......and a few other nice tricks. These things would not need to cost them that much.

Instead, they make everyone go to the aftermarket for these things that could be original equipment......and expect folks to swallow this chit. When I bought my Rubi....I knew I was going to spend another $10 k in aftermarket chit to get it up to desired standards of these times. Just ridiculous. OH.....and then they had to piss me off with some bogus price increases on metallic paint?? Not good biz practices.

As said......they don't listen well. Still.....I think many folks are a bit rabid right now.......and some level of sense will return. It's a tough line to walk.....if you want to make a decent profit in the auto biz. That 2 door Bronco is not especially cheap when "properly equipped."
I so much agree with you. I spent $8,000 on my 2” Synergy lift, Warn winch, Artec skids, aux lights, and 315/70/17s and now have 2” more clearance than the best stock Bronco. Rather than spending $$ replacing existing parts it would be so much easier and cheaper if this could all be installed during manufacturing....and Jeep could easily reclaim the top position....while generating more cash.
 

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Was that video accurate? You can only get the manual in the 4 cyl?
based on the order guide it appears so. The two top options show 2.7 with auto only. The others show either engine with optional 7 but only available on the smaller. Huge bummer.

suspect the wrangler 392 will also only be available in auto.
 

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I haven't 100% decided yet, but I am definitely leaning Bronco at this time.

I would have already bought a JL if not for the issues. I even rented one for four days and the steering was horrendous. Their response and lack of an apparent across the board solution has kept me at bay.

The Bronco, if sized well for my 6'6" frame and my kids, will win my money.

I have owned a YJ, a TJ, and a Grand Cherokee so it's not like I haven't been a Jeep guy.

FCA better seriously step up their game.
 

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I was ready to jump ship. I've got an 18K mile JL that will need a clutch before long and decided to reserve a Bronco. Then while I was trying to get on the website to reserve, I found out the 2 door was not available with a soft top. Crazy!

Perhaps, I will need to go back a 3rd time for the clutch recall. I've done the 4K dump the clutch test twice now and it has failed when I do it. Oddly, it seems to pass for the dealer.
 

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In fact, Ford probably has one of the worst records with all-new vehicle launches among the Big 3.

Following the launches of Fusions, Escapes and F-Series, Ford issued recalls due to fire risk multiple times between 2012 and 2019.

It’s a Ford thing...
And Jeep has done a stellar job in the last 3 years with the wrangler with frame welds, steering issues, and electronics reliability...
 
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