You can’t find an LJ for $5,000...unless it came floating down the Mississippi River.
Most LJs I’ve seen are $15,000 to $20,000.
Most LJs I’ve seen are $15,000 to $20,000.
I bought a new Wrangler JLU with no options in 2018 and in 2019 I drove it 6000 miles in 15 days and it drove great. A lot changed with the new model in 2018 and I don't have any experience with the previous JK model to compare it to.
I don't know where in Iowa you are located, but reach out to @spenchey from Motor Inn in Spirit Lake. With an affiliate discount (research tread lightly), he's been discounting new wranglers 5% below invoice.
gato, someone else said that the 5-speed autos aren't as good as the 8-speed. Do you know anything about that?If you are dead set on a Wrangler for your long road trips, your choices are:
1 - In the $5K-$10K range a 2004-2006 Wrangler Unlimited LJ (long wheelbase TJ)
2 - In the $20-$35K range a 2012-2018 JKU 4 Door Wrangler 5-speed auto
3 - In the $30K-$75K range a 2018-2021 JLU 4-door automatic Wrangler
The JKU is a huge step over the LJ.
The JLU is a little step over the latter models JKU.
The 2 transmissions belong to different eras.gato, someone else said that the 5-speed autos aren't as good as the 8-speed. Do you know anything about that?
The 5-speed auto is a Mercedes design that was put in everything up to V12 S-class Mercedes. It is absolutely bullet proof and smooth shifting.gato, someone else said that the 5-speed autos aren't as good as the 8-speed. Do you know anything about that?
I'm researching this and seeing that "best" years are said to be 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020 - and certain models in each of those years - and these have shown up across several articles. If basically any 4-door Wrangler with a hard top and all terrain tires in those years will do well, then that's what I'll focus on. I really don't think I can afford anything newer than 2018, though I'll keep all options open.
I was new to Jeep a couple years ago and found this to be the best for longer road trips -Hello, I'm new to the forum, and thinking about getting another Jeep. I currently have a 1980 CJ5 which I'll be selling so I can get something more road-worthy, as in long road trips. I have no idea where to start, but I do love the looks of the Wrangler, so am thinking this is a good place to ask: which might be best for long trips (1000 miles back and forth), not as much noise on the interstate, more comfort, and a reasonable price. I don't need a ton of bells and whistles, but reliability is necessary. I will make sure it has regular maintenance. Also, which year (nothing new)? The longer wheel base of the 4 doors may be a better fit too. I won't use it off-road that much, and when I do it'll be for light off-roading, nothing heavy. Then why a Jeep? Because I do love Jeeps & because I want one. To me, that's enough of a reason. Why have something you don't love?
These are great replies, and give me a good place to start. I'll see if anyone else has input, then I suppose my next step is to actually test drive a few. Does anyone know what year or price range I should be looking at?
I really can't afford anything new, so something a little older.
Not just fuel economy reasons, having the proper gear to optimize the power curve of the motor it's connected to. The 8 speed is night & day vs. the 5 spd in this regard.If it were not for fuel economy reasons, there would be no need for the 8,9, 10-speed autos coming to market.
If you look at the exposed transmission cooling lines on the JL 8-speed auto and all the wire bundles going into it (including one that failed on my Jeep - see other thread), and compare that to the simple stout, clean design of the JK 5AT it would be apparent which one you would want to have off-road.
I have full Artec skid plates. The lines and wiring are still vulnerable from branches being wedged in there. I and many others have had "Service Shifter" and other 8AT related issues. Yes, the ZF-designed, FCA-built 8AT is a great transmission when it is all working. I still think the chances of an 8AT in the JL leaving you stranded somewhere are much higher than the Mercedes designed 5AT.Not just fuel economy reasons, having the proper gear to optimize the power curve of the motor it's connected to. The 8 speed is night & day vs. the 5 spd in this regard.
I certainly agree that simple is better when damage may occur.
The ZF has also proven to be a reliable AT and put in very high output motors. I would certainly recommend a good skid plate that covers the AT lines if you plan to do four wheeling in situations where obstacles may get up in that area. I have my full DIY skids ready to install and I made sure the whole oil/trans section protected all the AT lines. Once you protect that AT I would want that ZF 8AT for all my Jeep driving (offroad or on) vs. that 5 speed, it's just that much better!
The 2.0L, other than sounding horrible during start-up/warm up is proving to be a great engine. I had the 3.6 in my JKU and the 2.0 is performing really well in my JLU.Thanks for posting your question. I'm in the middle of deciding myself. It looks like a 4dr Auto hardtop would fit the bill.
Was surprised to hear people say great thing about the 2L Turbo which save you $1k.
Has anyone had issues with the power while off-road?