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Best-selling 4xe PHEV, All-new Hurricane Twin Turbo Powertrains Named Wards 10 Best Engines and Propulsion Systems for 2022
  • Jeep® Grand Cherokee 4xe marks second consecutive win for innovative 4xe plug-in hybrid system
  • 3.0-liter Hurricane Twin Turbo debuted this year in the 2022 Grand Wagoneer
  • Jeep Wrangler 4xe, a 2021 Wards 10 Best Engines and Propulsion Systems winner, is the best-selling plug-in hybrid in America
  • Electrified and more efficient propulsion systems play important role in Dare Forward 2030 strategic plan
September 27, 2022 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - Two power-rich and fuel-efficient Stellantis powertrains, the innovative 4xe plug-in hybrid in the Jeep® Grand Cherokee 4xe and the all-new 3.0-liter Hurricane Twin Turbo I-6 in the Grand Wagoneer, are winners of the 2022 Wards 10 Best Engines and Propulsion Systems award. The honors mark the 12th consecutive year a Stellantis product is among the winners on the list.

“Our customers are very clear about what they expect from our vehicles and they don’t look to make compromises. The 4xe and Hurricane Twin Turbo powertrains deliver performance that enhances the driving experience on road, off road and when towing. Just as importantly, they reduce the emission of greenhouse gases. The strong demand for Jeep brand 4xe PHEVs and the Hurricane Twin Turbo-equipped Grand Wagoneer demonstrates we are delivering what our customers desire,” said Micky Bly, Stellantis senior vice president, global propulsion systems engineering.

Electrified and more efficient propulsion systems play an important role in the Dare Forward 2030 strategic plan that commits Stellantis to cut its global carbon footprint by 50% by 2030 and to lead the transportation industry by achieving net carbon zero by 2038.

4xe: Nearly Silent Propulsion Without Range Anxiety
The 4xe plug-in hybrid propulsion system that delivers nearly silent driving and enhanced off-road capability is a Wards 10 Best winner for the second year in row. This year, Wards editors named the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe to the top 10 list after honoring the Jeep Wrangler 4xe, the best-selling plug-in hybrid in the United States, in 2021.

The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe delivers 25 miles of all-electric range and 56 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) from its technologically advanced propulsion system rated at 375 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. The Grand Cherokee 4xe can tow a maximum of 6,000 lbs.

“Spectacular – the back and forth between the internal combustion engine and electrics is imperceptible and the stop/start is ultra smooth. It’s really a bit of an engineering marvel,” WardsAuto judge Dave Zoia said.

The 4xe propulsion system in the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Wrangler combines two electric motors, a 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine, an 8-speed automatic transmission and a 17 kilowatt-hour battery pack. E Selec modes let the driver tailor the 4xe propulsion system to the trip: Hybrid, Electric and eSave, which conserves the battery pack charge for later use and can send power to the battery pack while driving with the I-4 engine. Regenerative braking also adds power to the battery pack.

Hurricane Twin Turbo: More Power, Less Emissions
The Hurricane Twin Turbo I-6 wins the Wards award in its first year of eligibility. It delivers more horsepower, more torque and less emissions than many competitors’ naturally aspirated V-8 and boosted six-cylinder engines.

The inherently smooth running inline-6 engine employs state-of-the-art engineering and technologies that include two low-inertia, high-flow turbochargers for rapid response to throttle inputs, plasma transfer wire arc (spray bore) coating in the cylinder bores for an ultra-thin, low-friction wear surface and high-pressure (5,075 psi/350 bar) direct fuel injection.

“As the evident heir apparent to the HEMI® V-8, this is a huge leap forward for Stellantis, providing the basis for full-size truck and SUV propulsion for years to come. Electrified versions are likely to come, giving it even better numbers in the future,” WardsAuto judge Bob Gritzinger said.

The all-aluminum Hurricane Twin Turbo 510 debuted this year in the 2022 Grand Wagoneer with a rating of 510 horsepower and 500 lb.-ft. of torque. It is joined for the 2023 model year with the standard output Hurricane Twin Turbo in the Wagoneer, rated at 420 hp and 468 lb.-ft. of torque.

A History of Winning
This is the 12th consecutive time a Stellantis product is a winner of the Wards 10 Best Engines and Propulsion Systems award. In the 29-year history of the award, 11 engines/systems produced by Stellantis and its predecessor companies have accounted for 23 winners, including (engine/latest vehicles tested/years listed) in reverse chronological order:
  • 3.0-liter Hurricane Twin Turbo I-6 (Grand Wagoneer): 2022
  • 2.0-liter I-4 plug-in hybrid (Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, Jeep Wrangler 4xe): 2021-2022
  • 3.6-liter Pentastar Upgrade with eTorque (Ram 1500): 2019-2020
  • 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 hybrid (Chrysler Pacifica): 2017-2018
  • 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 (Ram 1500):2014-2016
  • 6.2-liter Hellcat supercharged HEMI V-8 (Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat): 2015
  • 83-kW electric motor (Fiat 500e): 2014
  • 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 (Dodge Avenger, Chrysler 300S, Ram 1500): 2011-2013
  • 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 (Dodge Charger R/T, Chrysler 300C, Dodge Challenger R/T, Ram 1500): 2003-2007, 2009
  • 5.9-liter Cummins turbodiesel I-6 (Ram HD): 2004
  • 4.7-liter SOHC V-8 (Jeep Grand Cherokee): 1999
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Does anyone else worry about the reliability and long term problems with these hybrids? that 4XE sounds like the direction most vehicles should be going ( as opposed to full electric) . But I can't imagine the complexity and the resulting difficulty getting repairs.
 

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Does anyone else worry about the reliability and long term problems with these hybrids? that 4XE sounds like the direction most vehicles should be going ( as opposed to full electric) . But I can't imagine the complexity and the resulting difficulty getting repairs.
I worry about the long-term availability of gasoline more than the repairability of a hybrid.
 

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Does anyone else worry about the reliability and long term problems with these hybrids? that 4XE sounds like the direction most vehicles should be going ( as opposed to full electric) . But I can't imagine the complexity and the resulting difficulty getting repairs.
Yes and, the 4xe is a jeep I would never buy outright. This is the type of vehicle you should lease.
 

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I worry about the long-term availability of gasoline more than the repairability of a hybrid.
Interesting comment. . I would, personally , never lose sleep over running out of gasoline unless I was trying to run from a hurricane in Tampa. Great time for electric until you hit that traffic jam. I think Hybrid is the way to go but I don't think I will own one until I am forced to.
 

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Interesting comment. . I would, personally , never lose sleep over running out of gasoline unless I was trying to run from a hurricane in Tampa. Great time for electric until you hit that traffic jam. I think Hybrid is the way to go but I don't think I will own one until I am forced to.
That's short term.

Long term = no gas available after 2050 (or some other unknown date)
 

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Interesting comment. . I would, personally , never lose sleep over running out of gasoline unless I was trying to run from a hurricane in Tampa. Great time for electric until you hit that traffic jam. I think Hybrid is the way to go but I don't think I will own one until I am forced to.
Ironically electric is vastly more efficient in a traffic jam.
 

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I tried to order the 6.4 in my GW lll but orders switched overnight after I had already given a deposit to model year 2023 and the only option was the 3.0 I-6. I guess we’ll see if it can compete with the 392.
 

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That's short term.

Long term = no gas available after 2050 (or some other unknown date)
Where you getting this info from?
The demand for gasoline will decline over the years as we shift towards less or no emissions vehicles, but the need for gasoline or some other form of combustible fuel will probably never go away.
 

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If the 4xe keeps selling the way it is for another atleast 5ish years, we may see aftermarket batterys poping up. Not necessarily a plug and play, but something private shops might start training techs on. Atleast fingers crossed.
 

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Where you getting this info from?
The demand for gasoline will decline over the years as we shift towards less or no emissions vehicles, but the need for gasoline or some other form of combustible fuel will probably never go away.
And where did you get that info from? That saying works both ways...



It's a concern of mine, pure speculation. I am concerned that I won't have easy access to gasoline at some point in my life. This concern is greater than my concern of long-term hybrid mechanical reliability.
 

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Where you getting this info from?
The demand for gasoline will decline over the years as we shift towards less or no emissions vehicles, but the need for gasoline or some other form of combustible fuel will probably never go away.
I think you folks are all kind of saying the same thing. Agreed there are some applications where gas will still be required for a long time. And as available remaining gas shrinks, I assume we'll need to keep it reserved for those applications. So presumably at some point in the coming decades gas will no longer be available at least to regular consumers.
 

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For me, a 4xe makes no sense. No enough range in pure electric mode to warrant one (and yes, I'll admit to having some anxiety to the complexities of one). Now, get me a 4xe w/ 100+ miles of pure electric range, and then you have my attention. And I personally have no worries about the availability of combustible fuel, at least not for the balance of the time I have left on this rock.
 

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And where did you get that info from? That saying works both ways...



It's a concern of mine, pure speculation. I am concerned that I won't have easy access to gasoline at some point in my life. This concern is greater than my concern of long-term hybrid mechanical reliability.
Saying there will be a need for gasoline is kind of expected, since we’ve been relying on it for so long, but saying gasoline is going to run out in like 20 or whatever years down the road is unpredictable! We really don’t know the answer to that, but don’t you think that with everything we use gasoline for and have relied on for so long to be replaced will require a long period of time? During that time the demand even at a lesser amount will always be there. Oil industry is not just gonna waive the white flag!

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