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Yeah it's probably a bunch of welfare queens out on the trail taking their government dollars and throwing them into the mud. /s
Wowee, do we have public transportation out to the trailheads now? 😁

But here's another question, while I dislike intrusive government, mightn't it serve a purpose for all states to have deposits on cans and bottles as some states do? If it wouldn't be an incentive to the people to return them instead of throwing them out at least it would help organizations and off-road clubs who actually do clean up the trails.

 

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I liked it better before your edit:

“It's a simple issue: RESPONSIBILITY AND RESPECT FOR OTHERS.”

To which, I agree. And yet you felt the need to get political about it. *shrug*


Take it any way YOU want it...
 

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Yesterday we had a charity wiffle ball tournament on the baseball field of the local high school in the name of a 16 year old baseball player who unexpectedly died of a brain aneurysm a few years ago. After it was all over we spent quite some time picking up half full bottles of water, gatorade, coke, etc. I dont get people. A very nice field at a charity event and people trash it.
 

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I love people who deliver these platitudes like "just leave" or "make it a better place".

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that many folks in CA (or wherever) want more of what you're seeking less of. Point being, you may disagree on what a "better place" looks like.
Better place is where people don’t throw they f in trash on the ground and don’t cut trails that cause lands to be shut down.. it’s simple. Respect what land we have
 


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Better place is where people don’t throw they f in trash on the ground and don’t cut trails that cause lands to be shut down.. it’s simple. Respect what land we have
Couldn’t agree more. But I mean that really wasn’t the context for calling the state “crapufornia” or whatever.
 

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Here in California there has been a remarkable growth in small local breweries offering beers in cans. At first I was skeptical because generally the better beers have historically been bottled and the mass produced swill has come in cans. But there’s lots of good and very interesting small batch canned beers these days. Not sure if somehow the technology of beer canning has changed to make it possible to better preserve the taste or to alter the economics of canning, but it’s been a good trend in my book. Are you seeing a great selection of locally canned beers in your area?

Nice thing about canned beers is that on a summer day I don’t worry as much as with bottles about soaking them in the river to cool down. When I am heading to the outdoors I don’t want to haul around tons of ice or a refrigerator with a built-in gourmet kitchen in the back of the Jeep. Some submersible beer cans, beef jerky, small stove with a few edible perishables in a cooler is fine with me.
I can't agree with this at all, in light of the fact, 1. Neurological conditions within the country you are in are skyrocketing(but the Presstitute media remains silent on this issue, gee I wonder why? )

2. practically NOBODY is educated about basic Chemistry 101, acidity on aluminum during food storage, with heat as catalyst...instead, we are lectured on other Big Pharma related issues, that never deal with the source of the problem, but rather the band-aid solution, gee I wonder why?

3. most people in your country(and others as well), suffer, one way or an other, very mild or severe, from some kind of heavy metal poisoning, but have absolutely zero clue, on how to prevent buildup, and help get rid of it, and out of their systems, gee I......

4. I can go on and on until it fills to the very bottom of your screen...


But no, instead, let us hide our heads in the sand, let's all pop our big Pharma pills, keep the credit ball and big pharma wheel rolling round and round,, and be merry! 😃

lollll, no thanks man, keep your metal can, with chemically coated interior wall(to prevent metal leetching out), and I'll drink out of my inert glass bottle.

Cheers 🍻
 
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Wowee, do we have public transportation out to the trailheads now? 😁

But here's another question, while I dislike intrusive government, mightn't it serve a purpose for all states to have deposits on cans and bottles as some states do? If it wouldn't be an incentive to the people to return them instead of throwing them out at least it would help organizations and off-road clubs who actually do clean up the trails.
I like where your head’s at, and I actually keep my cans and plastic bottles to return for a refund (I live in CA), but... I think in the Venn diagram of “people who litter by throwing cans/bottles in the woods while drinking” and “people who are fiscally conscious enough to care about recouping that $0.05 x 12” the overlap is almost exactly zero.

But yeah the people who clean it up could benefit, that’s true.
 

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Ugh, hate that. I don’t understand why people think that’s acceptable.
One of the best experiences I've had was on a backwoods canoe trip with a youthgroup (teenagers). While on a portage, one of the younger kids just tossed a bit of trash on the trail, and it was my own son (at the time, an older peer, but still a teen) gave this kid sh#t and made him pick up his litter. I thought to myself..."you brung him up right dad".
 


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A big one for me is people that throw out cigarette butts, not considering them trash. But that might be because I've never smoked. I've often picked up butts that people that I'm with throw out.

Growing up camping a weekend every month because of Scouting, I spent quite a bit of time picking up places that we camped and have continued that when I'm out.

The woods I have behind my house always have trash in it because my neighbor is a hoarder and the trash pile they throw out behind their should be condemned house gets washed down the gully that becomes a stream through my property. Not the same as what most places deal with, but it is another source of trash out there. She definitely isn't a teenager either. LOL
 

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A big one for me is people that throw out cigarette butts, not considering them trash. But that might be because I've never smoked. I've often picked up butts that people that I'm with throw out.

Growing up camping a weekend every month because of Scouting, I spent quite a bit of time picking up places that we camped and have continued that when I'm out.

The woods I have behind my house always have trash in it because my neighbor is a hoarder and the trash pile they throw out behind their should be condemned house gets washed down the gully that becomes a stream through my property. Not the same as what most places deal with, but it is another source of trash out there. She definitely isn't a teenager either. LOL
I've picked up butts thrown out car windows and thrown them back into the car. That stuff just pisses me off. "But I don't have an ashtray!" Then don't smoke in your damn vehicle.
 

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Back before the mid 70s, at least most of the trash biodegradable. I still occasionally find the rusted remnants of steel beer cans. They will all be gone in another few years. Wasn't uncommon to find those steel cans when I was a kid, shot full of holes. Lone Star case used to be just an open cardboard box that held four six packs. On the bottom of the box had a target printed on it to practice your shooting after the beer was gone! At least those non-coated boxes decomposed quickly.

These days it's plastics, that trash will be here for a couple hundred years or more. My grandkid's grandkids will be finding it. I find store bags it tangled in trees in the woods on my property, blown in from who knows where. Even a store bag takes about 5-7 years to degrade, but it never really goes away. When I try to pick up an old one, it falls to pieces and I have to pick all of those up.

The last time I was at South Padre Island, the easilly accessed parts of the beach, beyond where the fancy condos are, was absolutley trashed. It was unbelievable. As were drove north up the beach, beyond where POS cars and 2wd pickups could go, it got cleaner and cleaner. I'm talking all manner of trash from store bags to beer cans and beer case boxes to diapers laying out on the beach, along with all of the crappy stuff they brought with them and didn't want to take back like styrofoam coolers, cheap lawn chairs and wind damaged umbrellas. The county has to clean the beach daily with loaders. and it still happens. It was so nasty, my wife and I decided that we will never go to South Padre Island anymore. Padre Island National Seashore on N. Padre is much better. But it still has all of the trash that washes up from other parts of the world, or off of ships or commercial fishing boats. Far, far less is left on the beach by visitors though. They even have an anual clean up where volunteers go down and haul off all of the stuff that has collected.
 

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At the risk of sounding like an old fart, while I am old I am not an old fart...when I was a kid we had the fake Indian with the tear running down his cheek commercials...they who played a huge part I think in changing the outlook of an entire nation.
I remember this and it made an impact on me. (here it is if you haven't seen it: )

This is a very complex problem, however there is a solution. Its education on what this stuff does. I see it scuba diving as well. I teach new divers, don't throw trash over and if you see trash, pick it up.

Many people are not open to new or different ideas (this isn't pointed at one group, its every group). They don't want to learn and therefore have bad habits. That is a bigger problem than education.

If we teach people what pollution (including trash) does, we may have a chance. But from what I've seen, its only about "me" as long as its NIMBY, its ok. Problem is, its always someone's back yard.
 

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April 22, 1970 was the first year of Earth day. Too bad it never developed into anything.
I remember well those ads of the crying Indian and wondered why a First Nations person wasn't used for the ad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody
BTW, trash is sadly an issue on Indian Reservations also.

 

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