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I was reading a thread (which I can't seem to find again), about folks snapping a frame bolt when installing certain sliders / steps. This issue may have been addressed after 2020 (the red loctite on the bolts), but that doesn't help me a I have a 2020 willy's.

I also thought I read the factory rubi rails DO NOT USE the frame bolts as an attachment point and if you a purchasing sliders / steps that attach the same way you will not need to remove the frame bolts.

If anyone can clarify this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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It's the body mount bolts folks were snapping. There are lots of frame mount options that avoid that.

Using stock locations still leaves a serious weak spot if you are wheeling moderately hard.
 
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It's the body mount bolts folks were snapping. There are lots of frame mount options that avoid that.

Using stock locations still leaves a serious weak spot if you are wheeling moderately hard.
Thank you, I think I meant body mount. Wheeling will probably be limited to easy - moderate stuff. I'd rather drive a dirt / gravel trail to someplace to take pictures, than try to crawl rocks and wreck my Jeep. A man has to know his limitations :facepalm: (Dirty Harry).

That said, I'm sure the body mount stuff would be much more durable, but out of curiosity, why would using stock locations still leave a serious weak spot ?

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why would using stock locations still leave a serious weak spot ?

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Everyone has different needs. That's not a smear or crown, it's just reality. Really hard to see in my profile pic, but I have ROAM mounts that use stock locations. I'm switching to LOD frame mounts, because I bent these. Thankfully, it's super mild, but I am switching knowing I do stupid stuff.

For 99% of people who wheel, these would do just fine. They are stronger than stock rubi rails...just not for me.
 

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Everyone has different needs. That's not a smear or crown, it's just reality. Really hard to see in my profile pic, but I have ROAM mounts that use stock locations. I'm switching to LOD frame mounts, because I bent these. Thankfully, it's super mild, but I am switching knowing I do stupid stuff.

For 99% of people who wheel, these would do just fine. They are stronger than stock rubi rails...just not for me.

What is the most durable, frame mounted or body mounted ?

Which ones are you going with, or which ones would be best for slamming the jeep down in MAOB like rocks on accident from time to time ?
 

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What is the most durable, frame mounted or body mounted ?

Which ones are you going with, or which ones would be best for slamming the jeep down in MAOB like rocks on accident from time to time ?

First, I see you are in MN. If you are in the twin cities I can show you the LOD frame mounted (not on body bolts) vs stock mount points.

Second, a lot of Moab is mind over matter. It's got a lot of mental challenges that a stock Rubi can do. Go to Colorado, Johnson Valley, etc and it's a different world. There are even places in Gilbert (up northern MN for us) where rocker can be more common than Moab.
 
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..I can show you the LOD frame mounted (not on body bolts) vs stock mount points...

Aren't the rubi rails frame mounted as opposed to body mounted using the body bolts?
 

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The Rubi ones clamp on the pinch seam. They are body mounted but do not use the body (to frame) mounting bolts.
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