INCRHULK
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Yes, the lifecycle reports I've mentioned factor those inputs in. A lot of O&G lifecycle estimates don't.Wonder if that factors in lithium and cobalt mining and refining. Those are a big part of the carbon footprint of Li-ion batteries. Very few places to get these things so they have to be strip mined in one location, shipped to another location for processing and then shipped elsewhere for forming into batteries. It's a lot more to think about than just the charging side of the equation. BEV/PHEV certainly have a future in the auto world and with Jeeps, but IMO, Li-ion ain't gonna be long lived due to a lot of issues, and all the strip mining and refining required make them less green than you think.
The thing is, with BEV vehicles as you run them, they don't add to the carbon output. ICE vehicles do, constantly for the entire life of the vehicle. Mining, refining, and production are one-time input costs. Construction is a one-time input cost, but one that is shared between ICE and BEV.
Shift generation off fossil fuel production, and the carbon input to the environment trends towards zero. It won't entirely be zero because of wear and tear items, such as brakes, tires, and coolant. We are just talking about carbon emissions, It doesn't even take into count the reduced particulate and carcinogenic pollutants emitted by ICE.
The battery packs can be up/down cycled when they no longer hold enough charge for meaningful locomotive power, and the chemistry and elements can be recycled to produce new packs when completely spent.
When the pack is no longer good for locomotive power, the chances are the new pack will be cheaper, and provide greater power density for a given volume or mass.
BEV is a revolution and evolution in personal transportation we haven't seen since the introduction of the automobile, and the changes will be seismic and required.
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