rallydefault
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For sure. That's not incredibly biased and paranoid at all.I think everyone reviewing it has ulterior motives or is just a massive vagina.
Uh huh.The Wrangler is a very comfortable on road vehicle.
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For sure. That's not incredibly biased and paranoid at all.I think everyone reviewing it has ulterior motives or is just a massive vagina.
Uh huh.The Wrangler is a very comfortable on road vehicle.
Yes.Agreed.
I just drove my new Willys 850 miles home and it was amazing, comfortable, and the steering is great. Even at 80mph it drives straight and does not require correction; maybe my expectations were on the ground but the JL has exceeded every expectation I had for it.
^^^^This 100%It would be a very bad business decision on Jeeps part. Even though some people use it as a mall crawler, most still like knowing it has the best capability to go off road. It’s the same debate with buying guns….99.9% of the time you don’t need it until you need it, then you wish you had it.
If I'm camping and doing mild off roading that's what I see too, but in the rugged trails it's 99:1 Jeep all the time in the rocks. I am going up to Flagstaff and MOAB this week, actually leaving in a few hours if this Monsoon lifts.Probably depends on where you live.
I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.
I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
If they do , and don’t at least offer the solid axle in some way, then I will have bought my last brand new Jeep. Looks like V8 swap is in order when time comes....Probably depends on where you live.
I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.
I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
you won't be aloneIf they do , and don’t at least offer the solid axle in some way, then I will have bought my last brand new Jeep. Looks like V8 swap is in order when time comes....
By the early 1970s, ever-increasing insurance costs and ever-advancing emission regulations were what neutered what we knew as muscle cars.When it no longer has the bones that make it an enthusiasts vehicle then sales will suffer. Enthusiasts drive the aftermarket, which in turn drive sales.
Look at what happened to muscle cars in the mid 70s. The enthusiasts left the market when the manufacturers went after the “personal luxury” market. There were a few cars that were dressed up as such, but they were jokes and the enthusiasts knew it.
No argument from me. What's your point?The Civic is still Honda's #2 top seller and #9 overall for all vehicles in the USA...