Anyone think Jeep will move to IFS in 2023?

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Jeep is not trying to keep up with Bronco, Toyota and others. They have had record sales of the JL platform and if you do any type of wheeling, you will see that for every type of Toyota, Bronco or other off road type road vehicle you see on the trail, you will see it is about 100 Jeeps to every one of the other brands.
Probably depends on where you live.

I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.

I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
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Probably depends on where you live.

I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.

I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
I said on the trail. Not dirt roads.
 

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Agreed.
I just drove my new Willys 850 miles home and it was amazing, comfortable, and the steering is great. Even at 80mph it drives straight and does not require correction; maybe my expectations were on the ground but the JL has exceeded every expectation I had for it.
Yes.

Some members have your experience. Others have the opposite experience. Perhaps there is a lack of consistency somewhere in the manufacturing process.

No one seems to know why some new Jeeps steer properly and others don't.
 

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I said on the trail. Not dirt roads.
Aint that the truth. I've come across one FJ on the trail, and some 4runners on the dirt roads to the trail. Other than that it's usually TJs and JKs.
I see a lot of clean, built up Tacomas on the street though. Recovery boards, RTTs, lights. All the cool stuff.
 

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My wife drives a Mazda CX-5, which is widely regarded as the "drivers' choice" among CUVs. It's nice. Handles well. Comfortable ride. Gorgeous interior. But I don't find it any more relaxing or interesting to drive than a Wrangler. Jeeps are plenty capable/comfortable on the road.

I think a lot of people just don't have their suspension dialed in.
 

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I'm gonna be totally honest.... I don't really care about my SFA. It's not like IFS is awful off-road (and has a nicer ride over washboards). I'm not rock crawling; I'll likely never disconnect my sway bar. My wife will likely never take her Jeep anywhere a Civic can't go.

The ease of lifting is nice, but I don't need more than enough for 33's or maybe 35's (I have stock Rubicon springs on my Sport). So, if they didn't gimp non-Rubicons from the factory, the ease of lifting would be a non issue for me.

Reasons we have Jeeps: it's a compact (2DR), solid (body on frame with aftermarket steel bumpers), all terrain (4x4, good ground clearance, big tires), convertible (fun) that looks awesome (not a suppository like 90% of modern vehicles). IFS would only serve to benefit our use case.... But I'm not clamoring for it, the SFA is fine too.
 

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People buy the Rubicon and they never use or need lockers. But having that button there to turn the lockers on make them feel good. It doesnt matter if theyre going offroad or not. Thats meaningless.

Youre missing a point on why Wranglers sell. And that's the thousands of videos of Jeeps tackling hard terrain. Offroaders are the best marketing Jeep has. Why do you think they have the BOH program? If Jeep loses their offroad community then theyll lose sales.
 

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I had my rubi off road the second day I owned it, and have been to my local ohv park a few times before I got my license plates. Have needed to use the rear locker a bunch and for a couple of the climbs used both front and rear lockers. If jeep went to IFS for the wrangler then I would not be buying a new one again, and I would make my current jeep last as long as I enjoy wheeling. If they do make wranglers with IFS hopefully they keep SFA as a option.
 

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It would be a very bad business decision on Jeeps part. Even though some people use it as a mall crawler, most still like knowing it has the best capability to go off road. It’s the same debate with buying guns….99.9% of the time you don’t need it until you need it, then you wish you had it.
^^^^This 100%
 

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Probably depends on where you live.

I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.

I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
If I'm camping and doing mild off roading that's what I see too, but in the rugged trails it's 99:1 Jeep all the time in the rocks. I am going up to Flagstaff and MOAB this week, actually leaving in a few hours if this Monsoon lifts.
 

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Probably depends on where you live.

I'm retired and for the past few years have spent weeks every year in the outback of Utah, northern Arizona, and Nevada. By far the most common vehicle I see in the outback is the Toyota Tacoma. Second would be the Toyota 4Runner. Wrangler would be third.

I do see many, many Wranglers....on the street - top off, huge tires but clean and shiny. All too often mine is the only one that looks like it's seen dirt.
If they do , and don’t at least offer the solid axle in some way, then I will have bought my last brand new Jeep. Looks like V8 swap is in order when time comes....:)
 

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Marchionne’s plan for JL was to make IFS standard on Sports, Willys and Saharas, and retain solid axle on Rubicons only.

That might turn out to be a more plausible scenario. Just be prepared to pay a LOT more for a Rubicon the day that happens.

Still, I don’t see it happening until JM comes out.
 
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