I’ve always been a gear head. I haven’t had a performance hot rod in a long time. Decided to switch gears. I’ll check back with Jeep in about 3 years. Hopefully they’ll have their sh*t together by then. Might go for the turbo diesel then?
@aug0211 - I ordered a 3.6 JLU Rubi yesterday June 1 after finding out they were scrapping all the Turbos. I couldn't wait for the "fix" they were going to do on the Turbos. And not trusting them at this point since they still haven't said what caused the issue and what the fix will be.Just caught up on the last few pages...
@Erikacox - thank you for sharing info. You’re the best source of information any of us has had. Jeep needs more people like you on the team. We have made literally hundreds if not thousands of points of contact with Jeep across the people in this thread, and nobody has come through with *real* info, except you - thanks!
@GoldenSky - congrats on the 3.6! I bet you’re loving itI also totally get the decision to drop the turbo dreams. I’m still on the fence myself.
@Chicago - dude, we all can’t wait to see you in your 2.0. As much as we all want our own, I think everyone in here is also rooting for you and will get some big time enjoyment out of seeing you post a pic of your new turbo when it finally comes!
As for me... the info from Erika has been very helpful. Dealers will push what they have to try to make an immediate sale, of course. With Erika actually being on the lines in Toledo and having first hand knowledge that no 2.0s are currently being built, I think I’m going to wait a few days and see if production starts on them - indicating they have a fix for the wiring issues. If builds don’t start after a few days, I’ll assume they know there’s an issue but don’t know how to fix it yet... and that might push me to move on.
Lastly, you all know I’m leasing this one. Since I placed my order, the residual value has dropped, increasing my payment. Then, the money factor increased, also increasing my payment. Well, yesterday the maximum MSRP also dropped - significantly... again, increasing my payment.
Due to all of these delays, the payment has gone up about $80/month from roughly $500 to $580. That’s on a 3 year lease, so my cost of ownership is up by just under $3,000.
Wow. If they had said “you’re going to have to wait 2-3x as long and you’ll have to pay an extra $3k” when I ordered, I may have thought twice, lol. Quite the pickle.
I don't lease, so if I am wrong, let me know. But when you Lease, isn't this situation exactly what you are "betting" against happening. Plus, you have the "ease" of no ownership and liability. At the end of the lease, you just kind of jump to the next lease vehicle. In this case, the vehicle you would like, does not exist. Don't you just lease something else?
I recently drove across the country. I was amazed at how much all the cars looked the same, Except for Jeeps, Mustangs, Camaros, and Stingrays.Check out my new Rubicon...
I was told the build process should be quick but they didn’t say when it would start , I’m hoping to get more info next week
I did too. The dealer told me he expects that they'll be cancelling my order soon anyway. So I ordered a 3.6l with a manual trans clone of my 2.0l.
Not the escalate. I emailed Manley CEO directly Thursday got response Friday. Someone posted the email earlier. Try it
For what it's worth the jeep rep that I spoke with said they were waiting on parts now. Do I believe him...no. But it is possible, I guess it is. But hoping beyond hope when corporate contacts me Monday they will give an honest answer. But I am not hopeful. If they scrap completely that would be amazing and not in a good way.
No doubt. With all the speculation going on right now and the resources they give us for information, not giving any resemblance of a consistent message. I felt it was time to move in a different direction with drivetrain. I still feel the 2.0l will be a great engine, but I'll wait till they get things sorted out and see if the aftermarket takes to the engine.
My money is on Chicago never getting a 3.6. Turbo or not-a-jeep I would bet.
