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I'll need to replace my tires relatively soon and while I've actually really liked the M/T2 Firestones that were OEM, I'm wanting to switch to an AT tire for better wet weather traction and a quieter ride. I looked heavily at the BFGs, Toyos, and Falkens and I'm 99.99% sure I'm going to go with the Wildpeaks. I also want to get a larger tire mostly because I can but also because my sister-in-law has basically the same overall tire size on her Ford Expedition and I find that unconscionable and, frankly, so should you. So.... I've narrowed it down to two fairly different choices. A 285/70/17 and a 255/80/17.

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- The 285/70 is load C but HEAVY (can anyone confirm this is correct?) at 63 lbs. That seems extremely heavy for this tire size to the point that my admittedly amateur math says that it'll have a more significant impact on fuel economy, acceleration, etc. It is a load C though and has a slightly deeper tread.
- The 255/80 is much lighter, cheaper, and taller while keeping me at OEM width but only comes in load E which maybe? rides more harshly and feels like overkill since I don't see myself doing stuff that's going to destroy my sidewalls.

My gut tells me to go with the 255/80 but I've reached the point of overthinking this decision; thus the thread title.

Finally, I'll say my biggest concern with going with either of these - or any tire that isn't a direct OEM replacement - is having a harsh ride. Yes, it's a Jeep, but I actually find the ride quality relatively pleasant as I came from a sedan with very low-profile tires that amplified road imperfections. I don't want to go back to having to constantly scan the road ahead.

I'm curious what others think. Feel free to tell me I'm an idiot and should just get the Toyos or the BFGs though, I still have time to change my mind.
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I am a BFG K02 kind of guy but I ran a set of Falken Wildpeaks once and they were great tires. As far as size, it is a matter of personal preference between a little wider vs pizza cutters. Personally I like a little wider so voted for the 285/70.
 
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Funny how perception is relative. I consider my 37inch KM3s at 78lbs each relatively light.

I also vote for BFG in the 285/70/17 size. Load C will ride much softer and its a little wider, better for handling
 

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Toyo AT3 285/70/C— 55 lbs, my 35/12.50/C’s are just 59 lbs. very satisfied, but they are just a bit louder than the KO2’s they replaced due to a little more aggressive tread, but ride better and better when wet, acceptable trade off.
 

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Have the Falken Wildpeak at3w on our Jeep in 285/70R17 and love them. Had them for a year now, great in snow, rain and off-roading.
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Have the Falken Wildpeak at3w on our Jeep in 285/70R17 and love them. Had them for a year now, great in snow, rain and off-roading.
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This Toyo 255/80/17 AT3 is 33.1" tall and is only 51 lbs. It's an E rated tire, but being a 121/118 load index isn't rated near as heavy as some.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&partnum=58R7OCAT3&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

This C rated 285/70/17 is 57 lbs and a 116/113 load index.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87QR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes

And this P rated 285/70/17 is 47 lbs, but a load index rated at 117 and has a T speed rating.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87TR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes

Load index explained, making the whole ply rating and load range letters even more confusing. No light truck tires have 6, 8 or 10 plies in the sidewalls anymore, and 6 plies are about the most you will find in the tread portion.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87TR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes
 
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This Toyo 255/60/17 AT3 is 33.1" tall and is only 51 lbs. It's an E rated tire, but being a 121/118 load index isn't rated near as heavy as some.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&partnum=58R7OCAT3&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

This C rated 285/70/17 is 57 lbs and a 116/113 load index.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87QR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes

And this P rated 285/70/17 is 47 lbs, but a load index rated at 117 and has a T speed rating.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87TR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes

Load index explained, making the whole ply rating and load range letters even more confusing. No light truck tires have 6, 8 or 10 plies in the sidewalls anymore, and 6 plies are about the most you will find in the tread portion.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Open+Country+A/T+III&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=87TR7OCAT3&tab=Sizes
I think you meant " This Toyo 255/80/17 " yeah ?
 

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I think your decision really comes down to the width. Do you want the fat boy tire or the skinny pizza cutter?

I run the 255/80r17 pizza cutters and love it! I find that the skinny tires are easier on everything. Tie rods, ball joints, fuel consumption etc. Drives like it's on rails! If I were going to change tires, I would go taller and stay as skinny as I could but that's just me.

Whatever your decision, enjoy them buddy!

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I think your decision really comes down to the width. Do you want the fat boy tire or the skinny pizza cutter?

I run the 255/80r17 pizza cutters and love it! I find that the skinny tires are easier on everything. Tie rods, ball joints, fuel consumption etc. Drives like it's on rails! If I were going to change tires, I would go taller and stay as skinny as I could but that's just me.

Whatever your decision, enjoy them buddy!

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I remember seeing your Jeep a while back and I honestly have to credit you for the idea of even looking at that specific size. Love your Jeep!
 

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I think you meant " This Toyo 255/80/17 " yeah ?
Has to be— Toyo doesn’t show a 255/60. The/80 shows 50 lbs, 285/70 shows 55 lbs . I questioned DT about spec differences for the same tire on different sites when they showed one 4 or 5 lbs heavier than the mfg’s site and noticed others when tire shopping. No valid answer. 😖 @https://tiresize.com/ was accurate 🤷🏼‍♂️ No link but I tried tiresize.com and it worked
 
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Has to be— Toyo doesn’t show a 255/60. The/80 shows 50 lbs, 285/70 shows 55 lbs . I questioned DT about spec differences for the same tire on different sites when they showed one 4 or 5 lbs heavier than the mfg’s site and noticed others when tire shopping. No valid answer. 😖
Toyo has a 255/80r17 61 lbs, Geolander 255/80r17 53.4 lbs. Both MT's both are offered in E load only.

Same here, I use the manufacturers websites.
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