Aluminum soft shackle recovery rings?

[cosmokenney]

Looking at getting a pair of these rings to use instead of a snatch block: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZXM12X...colid=87LIM42OP5Z9&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Does 13,000 lbs working load seem like it would be enough?
They also make these which are 15,000 lbs. https://www.amazon.com/Combo-Pack-S...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2VGDPFMZJ6PJ0MYD2EAW

By the way, does anyone have any experience with these?

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[1996cc]

Looks like Factor55 just introduced a version at SEMA. They definitely make quality stuff.

https://factor55.com/news/

 

[cosmokenney]

Looks like Factor55 just introduced a version at SEMA. They definitely make quality stuff.

https://factor55.com/news/

Thanks man, I ended up buying two of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZXM12X...colid=87LIM42OP5Z9&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
They are pretty beefy. I was going to try them out this weekend before reporting back here.

 

[Bilymac]

Simple enough idea. Hopefully they hold up, not sure there is any reason they shouldnt.

 

[Odyssey USA]

I was recently shown a product like this but being new to off road recovery, I’m trying to envision how it’s used.

 

[RockyMtnHigh]

I was recently shown a product like this but being new to off road recovery, I’m trying to envision how it’s used.

Like this:

 

[Odyssey USA]

Like this:

Thanks! I’m guessing the other end is attached to a tree saver or deadman recovery kit?

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

It seems like this method works fine, but causes a lot more friction and thereby wear on your straps compared to using a snatch block. No?

 

[Odyssey USA]

It seems like this method works fine, but causes a lot more friction and thereby wear on your straps compared to using a snatch block. No?

This might help.

 

[Hayseed_JLUR]

Interesting video.

 

[Hayseed_JLUR]

I just do not find snatch blocks that heavy or hard to use...

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

This might help.

Thanks but that didn’t really give me any information on what I’m curious about. His looking at the shackle after a few seconds of pulling and feeling the pulley to determine how warm it is isn’t the most scientific of tests to determine how much friction wear is taking place. Lol.

 

[RockyMtnHigh]

Thanks but that didn’t really give me any information on what I’m curious about. His looking at the shackle after a few seconds of pulling and feeling the pulley to determine how warm it is isn’t the most scientific of tests to determine how much friction wear is taking place. Lol.

The force measurements were interesting, but I'm not sure how relevant that really is. Every video I watch of these things, the winch rope firmly grasps the ring and spins it around the soft shackle. A standard snatch block does the same thing but has a bearing to minimize friction. I can't reason any more wear on the winch rope itself.

 

[Hayseed_JLUR]

I am not an expert in this area but wouldn't the force increase relate to the amount of friction on the soft shackle. That friction is heat on the soft shackle. So we know there is considerable more friction and heat on the soft shackle portion but in real-life does that really matter? I do not know - no long term published tests it seems.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

The force measurements were interesting, but I'm not sure how relevant that really is. Every video I watch of these things, the winch rope firmly grasps the ring and spins it around the soft shackle. A standard snatch block does the same thing but has a bearing to minimize friction. I can't reason any more wear on the winch rope itself.

Yes. That’s what I’m getting at. Obviously a wheel spinning around a lubricated bearing is low friction, a wheel being dragged across a surface is much higher friction which equals heat and wear.

I am not an expert in this area but wouldn't the force increase relate to the amount of friction on the soft shackle. That friction is heat on the soft shackle. So we know there is considerable more friction and heat on the soft shackle portion but in real-life does that really matter? I do not know - no long term published tests it seems.

Right. Since these pulleys are radiused and all seem to have a super smooth anodized contact surface it reduces wear. But the question of “does it really matter?” is where my head is at. It may not be an amount that matters over the life of the strap. But maybe it does? That’s all I’m asking. I wish there were a scientific answer but unless/until there’s a study done in measured laboratory conditions we won’t know how much difference that extra friction makes on the strap.

Anyway I’ve already got a relatively small light snatch block that I’ll keep. Not like that huge monstrosity dude had in the video. That thing looks like it was used to hoist blocks to build the great pyramid. Lol. I’d switch too if I were using that.

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