I sent you a PMI have the jk version borahs that are +4mm offset and I love them. They really don’t stick out that much pass the fenders. The wheel itself is almost flush with the fenders, then the tire is bulged out passed the fenders almost to the end of first tread block. I think they look outstanding and even better in person then they do in pictures. For my own build, I wouldn’t want anymore positive offset that will be offered with the JL version, going from a +4mm to a +25mm the face of the wheel will be a little flatter than the one I have.