4.5" Metalcloak Gamechanger!

[Headbarcode]

Will and his MC team have just released a 4.5" Gamechanger kit, and coils areseparately soon to be available to purchase seperately.

I'm thinking of getting a set for mine. I'm also contemplating their relatively new control arm drop brackets along with the added suspension height. Not too enthused about losing ground clearance for who knows how much improvement in on road drive ability, but also wonder how much of an issue that'll be with them buried more behind 40's vs smaller tires.

Any thoughts from you fine people?

Even with front and rear chopped fenders, a tad more suspension travel clearance is rarely a bad thing.

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[hoag4147]

Will and his MC team have just released a 4.5" Gamechanger kit, and coils areseparately soon to be available to purchase seperately.

I'm thinking of getting a set for mine. I'm also contemplating their relatively new control arm drop brackets along with the added suspension height. Not too enthused about losing ground clearance for who knows how much improvement in on road drive ability, but also wonder how much of an issue that'll be with them buried more behind 40's vs smaller tires.

Any thoughts from you fine people?

Even with front and rear chopped fenders, a tad more suspension travel clearance is rarely a bad thing.

Mike, with the extra inch would you need to consider anything with steering? Possibly raising TB and flipping DL. You are probably correct in your thinking the drop brackets would be fine riding on 40s

 

[Headbarcode]

Mike, with the extra inch would you need to consider anything with steering? Possibly raising TB and flipping DL. You are probably correct in your thinking the drop brackets would be fine riding on 40s

Will from Metalcloak has stated that their shop JLUR with this new kit and 38's hasn't shown signs of needing a flipped drag link and relocated track bar.

Maybe we can get @CloakedWillys to weigh in with his thoughts?

 

[Zandcwhite]

Will from Metalcloak has stated that their shop JLUR with this new kit and 38's hasn't shown signs of needing a flipped drag link and relocated track bar.

Maybe we can get @CloakedWillys to weigh in with his thoughts?

It might not need it, but ours definitely drives better with it. Our front is ~3.5" lifted and I like the way it handles with the synergy kit. Not only does it raise the track bar for better roll center and less side to side movement during suspension travel, it also raises the sway bar axle mounts improving the sway bar angle at full droop. If we decide to go 39-40" on the next set of tires I might go for the metalcloak springs, but the 38's probably have 20-30k left in them.

 

[Roky]

Will and his MC team have just released a 4.5" Gamechanger kit, and coils areseparately soon to be available to purchase seperately.

I'm thinking of getting a set for mine. I'm also contemplating their relatively new control arm drop brackets along with the added suspension height. Not too enthused about losing ground clearance for who knows how much improvement in on road drive ability, but also wonder how much of an issue that'll be with them buried more behind 40's vs smaller tires.

Any thoughts from you fine people?

Even with front and rear chopped fenders, a tad more suspension travel clearance is rarely a bad thing.

My 2 cents……. Since you’re on 40s your control arm angle is better than most. If you go up another inch or probably 1-1/2”-2” then if you use the drop brackets, it will drive as it does now theoretically…….

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Stop the madness!

The steering drop brackets will absolutely make it drive better on road. I had the Teraflex ones for a while and it drove better. I removed them strictly for ground clearance when rock crawling which is the type of off-roading I do. I’m also on 37s with a 2.5” MC lift, so you’re 2.5” higher than me before getting the extra height. You know what? Forget what I said. Go for it!

 

[19 JLUR Bright Whit3]

Hey Mike,

I'm on 37s with 4.5ins up front and 4ins in the back. I dont have relocation brackets. I adjusted my LCA to 6 degrees. I may adjust another .5 this weekend. She rides fine down the road.

BTW. I bent the driver's tie rod end on the last outing. Dont know how 2.5 ton steering components can bend. Neverless, RPM Steering stated they will send a new one with a return label for the bent one. Great CS.

Best of luck with your decision.

 

[Headbarcode]

It might not need it, but ours definitely drives better with it. Our front is ~3.5" lifted and I like the way it handles with the synergy kit. Not only does it raise the track bar for better roll center and less side to side movement during suspension travel, it also raises the sway bar axle mounts improving the sway bar angle at full droop. If we decide to go 39-40" on the next set of tires I might go for the metalcloak springs, but the 38's probably have 20-30k left in them.

Yeah, I definitely felt the immediate improvement after adding a rear track bar relocation bracket, so I agree with you on the merits of raising the roll center. I currently have the full Gamechanger with 3.5" springs and the 6-packs, so I'm hesitant to lose a chunk of uptravel by adding enough bumpstop spacers to keep the drag link from hitting the frame.

 

[Headbarcode]

My 2 cents……. Since you’re on 40s your control arm angle is better than most. If you go up another inch or probably 1-1/2”-2” then if you use the drop brackets, it will drive as it does now theoretically…….

Yeah, at nearly 4" of actual lift height over stock the arms aren't at a huge angle. I'm curious if a couple more degrees will really have enough of a noticeable affect to warrant the drop brackets. I know that having the arms parallel to the ground are a benefit offroad, in that the wheel end that's climbing doesn't also have to shift forward while being stuffed, adding more stress to the process.

I'm leaning towards getting the 2 sets of brackets along with the springs. I'll try the springs alone at first to get a comparison between the 3.5's and 4.5". Then I'll add the brackets to see if they are worth their weight. Worst case, someone here will get a great deal on them. Bright side is that at least I'll know first hand, and can report my findings here for the next person in line for the ride.

 

[Jhawth]

Yeah, at nearly 4" of actual lift height over stock the arms aren't at a huge angle. I'm curious if a couple more degrees will really have enough of a noticeable affect to warrant the drop brackets. I know that having the arms parallel to the ground are a benefit offroad, in that the wheel end that's climbing doesn't also have to shift forward while being stuffed, adding more stress to the process.

I'm leaning towards getting the 2 sets of brackets along with the springs. I'll try the springs alone at first to get a comparison between the 3.5's and 4.5". Then I'll add the brackets to see if they are worth their weight. Worst case, someone here will get a great deal on them. Bright side is that at least I'll know first hand, and can report my findings here for the next person in line for the ride.

I'd be curious to see how that works out for you, I was eyeing those up myself!

 

[Roky]

Yeah, at nearly 4" of actual lift height over stock the arms aren't at a huge angle. I'm curious if a couple more degrees will really have enough of a noticeable affect to warrant the drop brackets. I know that having the arms parallel to the ground are a benefit offroad, in that the wheel end that's climbing doesn't also have to shift forward while being stuffed, adding more stress to the process.

I'm leaning towards getting the 2 sets of brackets along with the springs. I'll try the springs alone at first to get a comparison between the 3.5's and 4.5". Then I'll add the brackets to see if they are worth their weight. Worst case, someone here will get a great deal on them. Bright side is that at least I'll know first hand, and can report my findings here for the next person in line for the ride.

Mike, make sure to measure here before and after, I’m curious how close to the 4.5” it actually ends up giving…..Stock Rubi is 11.25 in this location…..

 

[Zandcwhite]

They have a sale going this weekend FYI. If you're not 1st you're last, do it.

 

[19 JLUR Bright Whit3]

 

[Headbarcode]

Stop the madness!

The steering drop brackets will absolutely make it drive better on road. I had the Teraflex ones for a while and it drove better. I removed them strictly for ground clearance when rock crawling which is the type of off-roading I do. I’m also on 37s with a 2.5” MC lift, so you’re 2.5” higher than me before getting the extra height. You know what? Forget what I said. Go for it!

Either I missed the first half of this conversation, or it's just that it's after 5pm in Texas.

 

[Headbarcode]

They have a sale going this weekend FYI. If you're not 1st you're last, do it.

I see I'm not the only enabler around here. Hahaha! Unfortunately, their not yet available for purchase outside of the new kit. Otherwise, I'd already be waiting for a tracking number.

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