It's not just the safety though. This is really bad because Jeep made specific changes to fix the problem. That means that Jeep is doubly incompetent at engineering because they both (1) failed to fix the problem and (2) to accurately assess whether they had fixed the problem. It's one thing to not prioritize safety but another to spend several years attempting to fix a problem and failing miserably.So? Who buys one of these if that’s a priority. There’s a Volvo out there for people with that requirement.
I would happily buy a brand new CJ if they’d make them. And I ride motorcycles.
I never have bought into the safety at any cost way of thinking.
Well, you've clearly staked out your position here, and there's no question where you stand on this point. I'll give you that.It's not just the safety though. This is really bad because Jeep made specific changes to fix the problem. That means that Jeep is doubly incompetent at engineering because they both (1) failed to fix the problem and (2) to accurately assess whether they had fixed the problem. It's one thing to not prioritize safety but another to spend several years attempting to fix a problem and failing miserably.
Yes, but keep in mind I'm not commenting on the safety aspect of it. Just the massive engineering failure, which has implications throughout the vehicle (corroding hinges, anyone?). Whether you care or not about their goal, Jeep ought to be able to reliably assess whether they can pass the test following their modifications. They can't even do that. They keep producing vehicles that they believe pass and then they get surprised with failures.Well, you've clearly staked out your position here, and there's no question where you stand on this point. I'll give you that.
FCA boardroom:Yes, but keep in mind I'm not commenting on the safety aspect of it. Just the massive engineering failure, which has implications throughout the vehicle (corroding hinges, anyone?). Whether you care or not about their goal, Jeep ought to be able to reliably assess whether they can pass the test following their modifications. They can't even do that. They keep producing vehicles that they believe pass and then they get surprised with failures.
I'm no engineer mind you, but how could they fix the problem without redesigning the entire styling of the vehicle? The small overlap test just hits plastic and tire on the wrangler, and by the time the majority of the energy from the impact contacts the actual body, the angle of the hit is going to be conducive to forcing a rollover.It's not just the safety though. This is really bad because Jeep made specific changes to fix the problem. That means that Jeep is doubly incompetent at engineering because they both (1) failed to fix the problem and (2) to accurately assess whether they had fixed the problem. It's one thing to not prioritize safety but another to spend several years attempting to fix a problem and failing miserably.