2022 392 CA Additional Smog Equipment Requirement Rumor...

[raj21747]

Ok cool. I ended up contacting the dealership and they were wondering the same thing. So the Sales Manager called the factory and had the Cali emissions stuffed removed.

Hmmm... if this is true than it must be an opt-out option. Highly unlikely there will be any opt out option. I can't believe we still have no concrete information on this matter.

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[ekim]

I have 2 lines on my POC:
YCF California Emissions States Order
NAE California Emissions
I ordered my 2022 392 in Virginia. I asked my dealer about this and he stated it means I can register it Cali(?) but nothing is diffrent about the Jeep.

Mine 2022 order has:

NAA Federal Emissions

 

[Newbalewb]

Mine 2022 order has:

NAA Federal Emissions

Can you post a pic? My 2022 POC doesn’t reference emissions at all from what I can tell.

 

[ekim]

Interesting. I have this:

And in a separate communication this:

 

[reallynervous]

Wow I didn't get discounts like you guys.

 

[ekim]

I'm in NJ. I think I need a California, not Federal - Does anyone have any experience with this?

 

[reallynervous]

I got my dealer to remove the Cali stuff and should be getting a new POC in a couple of days.

 

[2nd 392]

YCF-NAE? Should be WTF Ca emissions. You can order a 22 but don’t know what you are getting!!! This is BS!!! Hey Jeep tell us what we are getting!!!

 

[Devil6Dog]

Just another reason to get the hell out of California

 

[ekim]

Just another reason to get the hell out of California

haha - if it was only that easy. Here's the list of CARB states according to Wikipedia:

Criteria Pollutant Regulation	GHG Regulation	ZEV Program
State	Adopted (by model year)
California	1992	2009	1990
New York	1993	2009	1993
Massachusetts	1995	2009	1995
Vermont	2000	2009	2000
Maine	2001	2009	2001
Pennsylvania	2001	2009	N/A
Connecticut	2008	2009	2008
Rhode Island	2008	2009	2008
Washington	2009	2009	N/A[a]
Oregon	2009	2009	2009
New Jersey	2009	2009	2009
Maryland	2011	2011	2011
Delaware	2014	2014	N/A
Colorado	2022	2022

 

[reallynervous]

haha - if it was only that easy. Here's the list of CARB states according to Wikipedia:

Criteria Pollutant Regulation	GHG Regulation	ZEV Program
State	Adopted (by model year)
California	1992	2009	1990
New York	1993	2009	1993
Massachusetts	1995	2009	1995
Vermont	2000	2009	2000
Maine	2001	2009	2001
Pennsylvania	2001	2009	N/A
Connecticut	2008	2009	2008
Rhode Island	2008	2009	2008
Washington	2009	2009	N/A[a]
Oregon	2009	2009	2009
New Jersey	2009	2009	2009
Maryland	2011	2011	2011
Delaware	2014	2014	N/A
Colorado	2022	2022

I live in VA and they still tried to add the Cali stuff to my 392

 

[ekim]

I live in VA and they still tried to add the Cali stuff to my 392

I have the opposite problem :-(.

 

[ekim]

I have the opposite problem :-(.

Dealer fixed my problem. I don't think I would have been able to get it titled in NJ without this change. They said that the catalytic converters are different in the CA version.


Mine went from Federal to CA emissions:

 

[BuyHold]

Always so much dumping on California.

If you believe in "States rights" then surely you would think that states can set their own emissions standards when they think it necessary.

If you believe that business owners have rights to decide how to manage their own companies consider that most auto makers voluntarily choose to manufacturer all of their vehicles to CA emission standards. To them that makes business sense.

I am not going to defend California's regulatory environment but regarding their emissions standards generally, I can personally attest that there are very real reasons for why they are what they are due to California's topography and climate. I grew up in LA in the 1980s. Smog was so thick and brown you couldn't even see the mountains or downtown skyline on many days. You could smell the exhaust burning your nose and lungs. I was told by my grandfather who lived in LA from the 1920s and onward.that this still was much better than in earlier decades. He told me that there were days in the summers following the War, before auto emissions controls were required, that you couldn't even see more than two blocks away on account of emissions being so out of control. That people were getting sick routinely from it. Was really bad.

I don't know. I like the concept of maximum HPs without government throttling. But for this there are real reasons. This from a very libertarian minded Jeeper.

 

[2nd 392]

Always so much dumping on California.

If you believe in "States rights" then surely you would think that states can set their own emissions standards when they think it necessary.

If you believe that business owners have rights to decide how to manage their own companies consider that most auto makers voluntarily choose to manufacturer all of their vehicles to CA emission standards. To them that makes business sense.

I am not going to defend California's regulatory environment but regarding their emissions standards generally, I can personally attest that there are very real reasons for why they are what they are due to California's topography and climate. I grew up in LA in the 1980s. Smog was so thick and brown you couldn't even see the mountains or downtown skyline on many days. You could smell the exhaust burning your nose and lungs. I was told by my grandfather who lived in LA from the 1920s and onward.that this still was much better than in earlier decades. He told me that there were days in the summers following the War, before auto emissions controls were required, that you couldn't even see more than two blocks away on account of emissions being so out of control. That people were getting sick routinely from it. Was really bad.

I don't know. I like the concept of maximum HPs without government throttling. But for this there are real reasons. This from a very libertarian minded Jeeper.

While my 95 Dodge PU was still under warranty Ca required gas to be reformulated to include a new additive to burn cleaner and of course the price went up. My mileage dropped from 12-14 to 8-10. Took it to Dodge due to the 33% mpg drop and after extensive testing was told “ it’s the reformulated gas , sorry everybody’s mileage is way down “ After they found out the new additive was polluting the ground water and causing cancer it was taken out of the gas and of course the price was raised to take out what it was raised to put in in the first place. Also, I do not believe that my truck burning 33% more fuel polluted less.

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